My car has a manual tranny so there is no winter setting. I am under the impression that the winter setting just starts you off in second gear which is only good on ice.

I am not talking about keeping up with my buddy on normal curves. I am talking about how his wheels can go all the way left and the AWD kicks in and allow him to stick through the hard turn. I have been in it and you can feel the car move power to the wheels that have more grip. In a RWD your rear end will wrap around if you are not careful. The traction control just hampers the cars limits. I seriouly doubt that anyone that does autocrossing with our cars leave it on.

-marc

btw: the first couple of time I got the car sideways I had the hardest time figuring out where the tires where pointing to pull out so I had to let off the gas. It's not an issue anymore but If you decide to try this then do it in a wide open space until you figure it out.