Thread: Nxt 2.0
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Default Re: Nxt 2.0

Originally Posted by MAKIII
Mike
Couple of things
  1. I appreciate your response on how you view your competition - you are right FP roadster - looks flawless, and if likes it - great
  2. I have been using Liquid Glass for close to 20 years now - and it seems that the longer I use it on the car - the slicker the surface becomes - or am I just kidding my self?
  3. What is the difference between Liquid Glass Nxt2.0?
  4. There is an Dupont Auto paint store here in town and they sell some rather high end polishes and waxes (Liquid Glass has gotten kinda pricey) - and they said that for everyday use - stick to LG - but use Meguiar's detail spray and your marine canvas cleaner and protectant. I followed their advice - BUT I have always wondered what's the diff between the better products off the shelf and the real higher end stuff? (sorry I didn't get specific product info - but it was about $100.00 for the same size of Nxt2.0)
Mike if you could clear some this up I would appreciate it - thanks
I've only played with Liquid Glass a couple of times but I actually like the stuff. It's sort of an old school product that has changed a bit over the years - still has a bit of a solvent smell to it but much of its cleaning ability has be taken out. I do find it very odd that the instructions say to apply it with a coarse cloth though - that actually bothers me! I'm also not a big fan of products that claim multiple coats will enhance the look or add more protection. Our own chemists have yet to prove conclusively that you can continue to build layer after layer of wax. Liquid Glass goes so far as to state on their website that The more coats applied, the deeper and richer the gloss. The protection will also improve. For example, many coats have been known to increase the resistance to stone chips. I struggle with claims like this because it implies that something you pour out of a bottle and wipe off to where there's just a microscopically thin layer left behind is actually harder than the paint itself. Putting aside all these claims (I'll let you determine if they are crazy or not) I do find Liquid Glass easy to use and it does give a very nice shine and a nice, slick feel. But I also think that any additional gloss or slickness you're experiencing is more just a function of regularly using the product than any actual buildup of these characteristics.

I would say if you are happy using Liquid Glass as your primary protectant then following the recommendation you got for using Meguiar's Quik Detailer is a good one - although I'd step it up a notch and use Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer. Our canvas cleaner and protectant also do a fantastic job on the Crossfire canvas top and are really easy to use as well.

As for differences between very expensive "boutique" type products and over the counter products, most of it is marketing. Even the $7,000 Zymol Royale Estate wax is not going to make a neglected 10 year old car look any better than a Meguiar's, Mother's or Turtle Wax $7 cleaner wax will. In fact, due to the cleaners in those inexpensive cleaner waxes, they would blow away the Zymol Royale on a neglected finish. But once you prepare a finish to perfection via claying, proper machine cleaning/polishing and perhaps hand applying a pure polish for ultimate gloss, the final wax you put on top isn't going to make a really huge difference. The vast majority of your gloss comes from all the prep, not the final wax. I have seen a $2500 wax applied side by side to Meguiar's M26 on a perfectly prepared black surface and I couldn't tell them apart. At 200X the price of the M26, that expensive boutique product should have blown me away, but it didn't. I would gladly use Liquid Glass instead of the pricey stuff any day.

In the Meguiar's line the biggest difference between our Mirror Glaze pro line and our consumer line - when there are similar products in both lines, at least - the primary difference is that the Mirror Glaze pro stuff is formulated to be used with a rotary buffer, D/A buffer or by hand, whereas the consumer line is formulated for D/A or hand use only. We do have some products on the pro side that don't exist on the consumer side - M26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax and M20 Polymer Sealant don't have direct counterparts on the consumer side, and almost none of the cleaner/polishes on the pro side have consumer counterparts.

Meguiar's is in kind of unique position in this industry since we cater to all types of users, from the total novice who's never waxed a car, to hard core enthusiasts who are interested in machine polishing, to extreme high end show cars (most Pebble Beach winners have been prepped with our products), to body shops, the OEMs, etc. Others like 3M cater primarily to the body shop and OEMs with very little consumer products, or Zaino, Adam's, Pinnacle, etc who's customer base is the hard core enthusiast and nothing else, or Turtle Wax who markets almost exlusively to the general consumer.
 
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