X'ed I appreciate that you're trying to show me the error of my ways, however you're comparing the wrong type of car. The rx8 is a rotary and if you look at the chart you refered me to it shows exactly what I described (a FLASH reading). If you look at the other 2 runs he made they were 181 and 178. Using a dyno you Average those readings and even if we allow the first one in its at best a sustainable 181. Thats 6hp from a rotary. If you'll check some of my other posts on this subject, a show on SPEED is doing an upgrade on a Acura RSX-S This car shows 210WHP. They installed a cold air intake specially designed for the car and measured 4-6 WHP with the hope that they will pick up an additional 2 @100mph from ram air effect.