interesting. I will try these various options and see what happens. I will keep the 2nd key on me at all times, the other one will be tried in the ignition, and on the seat, and I'll see what happens. Perhaps when i did this on saturday it may have been one of those scenarios that I didn't put two and two together. Interesting, but bottom line is that I will make sure both keys are not in the car at the same time!!!!