leaves you in suspense doesn't it...good point Lantana...maybe I will talk to a mechanic in their shop next time to see, but there is an independant shop nearby I haven't visited for awhile...we go back aways, so I will call on him. My mechanic, from my Chevy days, is doing very well with me supplying info from here on the forum and guys like you...but, we know sooner or later, we will need the machine for diagnostics. Thanks again for your insight...