I think eventually like all things the sites participents will determine its fate. As long as people want to share there love of these cars then all sites representing these cars will flourish. I for one joined this site to learn about our cars. I joined CICCI to hopefully glean more info about our cars. Thinking some sites would have more info than others. That was my sole purpose. So to me bashing, whining or whatever you want to call it takes away from any learning experience forum members might have. I enjoy what anyone has to say, good or bad. I love learning!