But you have to admit, Detriot has been a "hole" for decades. I remember going to the Federal Building in the 70's for my FCC exams. I made at least 5 trips up there over the years with the guys from the radio club.

As we drove down Michigan Ave, I saw the side streets blocked, looked like a war zone. Disabled cars sitting sideways in streets, buildings nearly falling down (or looking like they were about to), etc. Sure, Detroit has alwyas had nice areas - but WOW what slums!!

And yes, I know, Pittsburgh is just as bad - probably many large cities in the USA and elsewhere. But think of the tax dollars that come from all over Michigan that are poured into that city - and down a rat hole. If you live there, and even if you ARE in a good area - many of YOUR tax dollars are going down a hole!!!