OH, TIM....you have sinned my friend.....pray to the XF gods to forgive you....touchless only.....lol.....now, with that said, would you take one of those beautiful rods you build thru one???? Didn't think so....and the quote above I am not sure about...."my baby by hand" is a little more info than we need...and TIM...now that you are forgiven...these little babies are built like tanks...so it will be fine....but I am still crenging...