Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire

I relaize this, but a stab brake right before hitting those leaves made sure I decreased speed enough to safely manuever through them, wet or dry. I am not trying to knock your driving ability in the slightest, just saying even Massa and Schumacher use the brakes



Chased him through 10+ times, had him chase me through a few times too, and went on a run or two with him. I am not saying we were regularly above 130 in the hell bender, but if we were....

Also had a lengthy discussion with him last night on the telephone. I think we have pretty similar viewpoints on performance and how to drive through the twisties. He has not driven a 6 speed XF and I have not driven an SRT, so within the next few weeks, we are going to try each other's out and see what the conclusions are, should be interesting.....