I totally agree with you, John. I had Conti Extreme Contacts on my Eclipse. And I drove that car like I stole it - rain or shine - snow or not. They are great performing tires. Good grip when hot or cold. They had very reasonable grip even in deep snow. I highly recommend these tires.

I can also recommend anyone stays away from Sumitomo HTR Z III tires. They suck. As soon as I smoke them off the rears of the Crossfire I'll be looking at some Contis to replace them. I don't need to go with all-seasons on my XF since I store it over the winter, or I would be putting Extreme Contacts on.