hey John, not sure when you put these shoes on, but in 10K you're at DW as the S is almost gone, huh? So how will this affect your 50K warranty, and idea? Is there any all season out there that will hold up on the Cross for at least 35K? I have 26K on my OEM's, Conti, and in our first little snow I was losing traction pretty fast. They're down to maybe 4/32 in the rears, so I figured I'd get most of the summer next out of them. On the other hand, I'm generally putting on about 7K max a year due to being able to commute as much as I do on the bike, so if I can get 4 years out of them I guess that's more useful a measurement than mileage alone. the interesting thing is that on my Explorer I had Michelin LTX's and got about 100K out of them which to me was unbelievably good, never saw that before.