This is about what I expected to hear and its how I feel as well. Refinement shouldn't be considered "soft", rather a good thing so you can enjoy your car w/o too much problems. In the defense of my old car though, I had some mods done to the car and it too was good to me and I really liked it, although when I sold the car the 3rd gear syncros were starting to go bad, but that was covered under Fords ESP, so its not like I didn't tell the guy and he ended up paying $50.00 to have the trans overhauled. All in all, I do enjoy the Crossfire over the CSVT, but its hard to make the Crossfire standout in the crowd as far as mods, but that's alright for now.