East of 61 and west of 95 are a bunch of nice twisty roads. I have a nice loop I ride on my bike I'm sure you guys woul like it! We could start at the Kowalski's parking lot in White Bear to meet. There is a bar there outside on the lake. Then we could follow to the bar in Marine. From White Bear to Marine is a good 3/4 hr spirited drive (almost all twisty, no stopping) .