John I dont think that there are a lot of cars out there that have been lowered and the bolts actually did any good they may get a little closer but not where they should actually be ... When I first dropped mine and did the bolts my front end guy told me straight up that without a good 2.5 or 3.0 degree I would not get in spec and I dropped 2 inches for sure and after settling a little more i'm around 2 1/4 down.,and it has taken its toll on my front tires . ,I showed him the K-macs and he said that will get the result we need ,and no more tire wear from camber ,, so i'm excited to finally get this completed .. the cost is excessive IMO .But so are tires at 150.00 to 200.00 a pop..