Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher

I have forgotten nothing. That's the problem. We just cannot bend the way we used too.
In the 60 Chevy, 65 Plymouth, 69 cuda, 75 Olds Starfire (that was fun), three 98 Regencies, a 450 SEL, and a Mark Cross K car. Amazingly, not once in any of my Caravans. I mean after all, there is no challenge there.

And BigKid,,,,, door open doesn't count. I said in the car. Have some class man.