Originally Posted by
32krazy!
john i think your completely off track here. i wasnt spewing the "amg is better than the srt" line here. i was asking for a response to les' post about the srt engineers IMPROVING on the amg design. what improvements were made? response was cooling. i dispute this statement as the amg grille openings are much larger and cool better. as for the srt grilles this could have been done many different ways with success without detracting from the style design.
as for racing the 2 cars the only major difference between grips car and mine was the driver. he is yrs ahead of me when it comes to the track and how to drive a car. as for the cars themselves they were about as close as possible
as for the srt6 or the slk32 not being a "drag car" i highly doubt that vegas, pintos, comets, furys and dodge darts were ever considered drag cars yet they show up at tracks all over the world. people still say my porsche isnt a "drag car" yet theres 50 996 turbos ahead of me on drag times that run in the 11's the 10's even 9's . if thats not a drag car what is?
look at dragtimes. eliminate the nos cars and the v8 cars and the slk32 is faster than the srt 6 save 1 car that claims no nos but the times dont verify that .
so back to my original question. WHAT DID THE SRT ENGINEERS DO TO BETTER THE AMG DESIGN? sorry i know what it is. they went from a bose system to an infinity system my bad! driveline , suspension, seating, exhaust, electronics, and so much more all mercedes with ZERO input from chrysler.
as for the suspension comment i have had both srt6 and slk32 coil springs side by side in my hand. the height, coil thickness, amount of coil bends, and coil spacing are identical. save the eibach logo on the slk32 springs you couldnt tell one from another. could the rigidity of a fixed roof coupe over a retractable roof be the difference? possibly
mods. search the c32 forum back in 2002 03 before the srt6 was even a thought. 178 renntech pullies, 181 pullies c3 pullies and bigger intakes from the sl55 were all being done. the srt6 nor the guys who build parts for them didnt corner the market here. amg guys were modding these cars the day they were built. ckovach and jeremy and some of the other OG modders were tearing into brand new 60k$ cars and adding cams, headers pullies, belt kits , blue top solenoids and anything else they could find yrs before the srt6 failed at the dealership. it wasnt until these cars became 3 to 4 yr old lot queens that the modders saw the potential
even the highly coveted v8 xfire was done to the slk32 yrs before by brabus
Perhaps it was the barbs thrown at the "SRT" folks that got me riled... or the hell day at work...
But either way,
I never said the SLK was
without aftermarket support before the SRT came along. OF COURSE you could spend $3,000 at Renntech, Brabus, etc... I simply said there was an explosion of enthusiasm/support for the M112 with the SRT's arrival. You can't deny that, otherwise you wouldn't have a username on this forum. You've told me on a number of occasions that you came here because the SLK forums were DEAD.
Again, you come back with the "AMG was first/better because _____." And don't act like you aren't riding the hig horse with the pedigree references... "failed at the dealer"... "3 to 4 year-old lot queens"... etc. I know this car is "not worthy" of a lot of love, but for some of us on here, it's all we have. It may be nothing to some, but it's everything to us.
Yes, you can drag-race anything... remember the Diesel Dodge at Beech Bend? Yet, it was engineered to perform other tasks, like towing trailers across a farm. Your Porsche, while certainly quick in the 1/4, is better suited for corners than straight lines (from the factory). Agree to disagree, but it's not a Mustang.
If you're truly interested, I could type a novel about the variable differences of the components between the SRT and SLK, and put every reader in this thread (and both of us) to sleep. The coupe is significantly more rigid than the drop-top Benz. We have more room for rubber in the rear. Rubber = grip. The springs are the "same height", but the rates are allegedly different (according to the engineers). Or is this another example of "marketing"? After all, the SRT supposedly had less HP than the AMG from the factory, according to the press. But the engineers (and dynos) clearly said otherwise... they're identical motors. As for the remainder of the car, the differences are few, but significant. But I digress.
Instead of continuing the nickle/dime comparison between platforms, I could simply point out the obvious -- say what you will about the Crossfire, but you joined this forum, having NEVER owned one -- and continue to participate, thousands of posts later. Did you come here to promote the Crossfire? No... in fact, you never waste an opportunity to remind us that it is an orphan with no pedigree. Heck, you even threw the SLK55 (an AMG!!!) under the bus in Spudracer's thread. I guess nothing is sacred. Did you come here to enrich your experience of owning a Crossfire? No, because you didn't (and wouldn't) own one.
Did you come here to glean information and modding tips from SRT owners, establish a relationship with Rob @ Needswings, build a rapport with Rudy, and use their mods in pursuit of building a faster "AMG"? YES.
Now, you own a Porsche -- a "premium" brand which shares nothing in common with the SRT (except the stereo, LOL). Yet, you still log into the Crossfire forums every day, and bless us with your input.
And there's
nothing wrong with that. You and I have built an extremely strong friendship as a result of you being on this forum. You have helped me with my car more times than I can count, and I am forever grateful. I'm sure Anthony could echo my sentiments.
I just tire of the degrading references to the "mighty SRT engineers" and "lot queens" and "dealership failures". We could really go without hearing that.
Some of us can't afford Porsches. Some of us wouldn't have them, regardless.
All the best,