so if they are liars also given their stated 0-100 in 5 seconds stock version is a lie?

 

Do not get confused with 0 to 100 mph with 0 to 100 kph.
0 to 100 kph in 5 secs OK, 0 to 100 mph in 5 secs no way José.

 

I speak of 0-100 km / h and then you have to make a good start to get the right time otherwise it can vary even 2 seconds

 

This thread is fast approaching redundancy...

Cliff notes, for those that keep asking the same questions over and over and over:

• Yes, the NW Dual CAI is worth the extra $$$ over the single, if you can afford it
• Yes, the NW single will give you 90% as much power as dual for 50% of $$$
• Yes, the stock SRT does 0-100km/h (0-60 mph) in ~5 seconds
• Yes, you will be faster by using the CAI
• arado is a clown

As for the AMG/SRT d!ck-swinging that always takes place every ten threads or so, I'm really confused why we have to keep having this argument. While the AMG is always touted as "superior", it got its *** handed to it 99% of the time by an SRT with equal mods. Blame the driver, blame the tires, blame the tune, bla bla bla... Fact remains, Steve had one of the fastest (if not THE fastest) SLK in the USA, and it was still bested by a local SRT-6 on a number of occasions. Steve got an occasional win, normally when Anthony's car was feeling ill. The scene was similar across the US... "Superior" on paper is simply a theory. When both cars lined up at the race track, the SRT usually beat the AMG.

The SLK AMG gets a lot of respect from me, but aside from the Vario Roof, I wouldn't have one over the SRT. No way, no chance.

Not an attack on anyone, as Steve and Anthony are both close friends and I support them (and their cars) 100%. And the argument *should* be dead, as Steve has moved on to more powerful, more expensive cars... but he still hangs out here because he secretly loves the SRT-6 and those that own them

Cheers,

 

VERY well said and comes from one with inside knowledge.....

 

Thanks man.

I just get tired over this whole academic "superiority" rant... Both cars had their strengths. The AMG had refinement (creature comforts) that the SRT lacked, and the SRT was mysteriously quicker by a tenth or two in the 1/4 mile... factory freaks existed on both sides of the brand. If it wasn't for the SLK AMG, the SRT would not exist. If it wasn't for the SRT guys (and the spawning of Needswings/Eurocharged) the SLK would be limited to Renntech and Kleeman. Much of Steve's racing success was the result of companies that cut their teeth on modding the SRT-6. So, the AMG owners owe the SRT a bit of thanks, if they'll be honest with themselves.

The SLK did run cooler than the SRT with same mods -- however, that had less to do with the cooling systems (because they're identical) and more to do with the design of the car lending itself to larger openings. For the SRT to have larger openings, the design lines of the car would have been compromised. Since the car wasn't a drag-racer by design, there was no particular care given to maximizing the radiator exposure. Yes, many owners take them to the drags (myself on occasion) but I think we can all agree that NEITHER the SLK or the SRT were designed with "Friday night drags" in mind. Autobahn crusing and twisty back roads? Check.

And in that regard, the two cars may as well be equal, as has been proven by several trips to the Dragon.

Cheers,

 

This " clown" has never lost a fight. Anybody who tried, is dead. They died of old age.

 

LOL, I pick on you because you can take the heat.

Cheers,

 

Ho il doppio, perché è più bello... e non ho il SRT... il singolo non sembra completa sul motore

 

I am one of the few Italians who loves this car SRT6 that I find much more beautiful and special the same slk also the new model, do you think I bought before a xfire n / a and then not satisfied with the performance a SRT6, few recognize that car in Italy is, and many people ask me what car is it? but it is very beautiful, my problem is that here in Italy I have any problem with the srt 6 no one knows how to solve the mechanics do not even know you know all about the tuning pulley DCAI tcu tuner here is completely unknown and it always causes many problems but I love the crossfire

 

john i think your completely off track here. i wasnt spewing the "amg is better than the srt" line here. i was asking for a response to les' post about the srt engineers IMPROVING on the amg design. what improvements were made? response was cooling. i dispute this statement as the amg grille openings are much larger and cool better. as for the srt grilles this could have been done many different ways with success without detracting from the style design.

as for racing the 2 cars the only major difference between grips car and mine was the driver. he is yrs ahead of me when it comes to the track and how to drive a car. as for the cars themselves they were about as close as possible

as for the srt6 or the slk32 not being a "drag car" i highly doubt that vegas, pintos, comets, furys and dodge darts were ever considered drag cars yet they show up at tracks all over the world. people still say my porsche isnt a "drag car" yet theres 50 996 turbos ahead of me on drag times that run in the 11's the 10's even 9's . if thats not a drag car what is?
look at dragtimes. eliminate the nos cars and the v8 cars and the slk32 is faster than the srt 6 save 1 car that claims no nos but the times dont verify that .

so back to my original question. WHAT DID THE SRT ENGINEERS DO TO BETTER THE AMG DESIGN? sorry i know what it is. they went from a bose system to an infinity system my bad! driveline , suspension, seating, exhaust, electronics, and so much more all mercedes with ZERO input from chrysler.

as for the suspension comment i have had both srt6 and slk32 coil springs side by side in my hand. the height, coil thickness, amount of coil bends, and coil spacing are identical. save the eibach logo on the slk32 springs you couldnt tell one from another. could the rigidity of a fixed roof coupe over a retractable roof be the difference? possibly

mods. search the c32 forum back in 2002 03 before the srt6 was even a thought. 178 renntech pullies, 181 pullies c3 pullies and bigger intakes from the sl55 were all being done. the srt6 nor the guys who build parts for them didnt corner the market here. amg guys were modding these cars the day they were built. ckovach and jeremy and some of the other OG modders were tearing into brand new 60k$ cars and adding cams, headers pullies, belt kits , blue top solenoids and anything else they could find yrs before the srt6 failed at the dealership. it wasnt until these cars became 3 to 4 yr old lot queens that the modders saw the potential

even the highly coveted v8 xfire was done to the slk32 yrs before by brabus

 

Perhaps it was the barbs thrown at the "SRT" folks that got me riled... or the hell day at work...

But either way,

I never said the SLK was without aftermarket support before the SRT came along. OF COURSE you could spend $3,000 at Renntech, Brabus, etc... I simply said there was an explosion of enthusiasm/support for the M112 with the SRT's arrival. You can't deny that, otherwise you wouldn't have a username on this forum. You've told me on a number of occasions that you came here because the SLK forums were DEAD.

Again, you come back with the "AMG was first/better because _____." And don't act like you aren't riding the hig horse with the pedigree references... "failed at the dealer"... "3 to 4 year-old lot queens"... etc. I know this car is "not worthy" of a lot of love, but for some of us on here, it's all we have. It may be nothing to some, but it's everything to us.

Yes, you can drag-race anything... remember the Diesel Dodge at Beech Bend? Yet, it was engineered to perform other tasks, like towing trailers across a farm. Your Porsche, while certainly quick in the 1/4, is better suited for corners than straight lines (from the factory). Agree to disagree, but it's not a Mustang.

If you're truly interested, I could type a novel about the variable differences of the components between the SRT and SLK, and put every reader in this thread (and both of us) to sleep. The coupe is significantly more rigid than the drop-top Benz. We have more room for rubber in the rear. Rubber = grip. The springs are the "same height", but the rates are allegedly different (according to the engineers). Or is this another example of "marketing"? After all, the SRT supposedly had less HP than the AMG from the factory, according to the press. But the engineers (and dynos) clearly said otherwise... they're identical motors. As for the remainder of the car, the differences are few, but significant. But I digress.

Instead of continuing the nickle/dime comparison between platforms, I could simply point out the obvious -- say what you will about the Crossfire, but you joined this forum, having NEVER owned one -- and continue to participate, thousands of posts later. Did you come here to promote the Crossfire? No... in fact, you never waste an opportunity to remind us that it is an orphan with no pedigree. Heck, you even threw the SLK55 (an AMG!!!) under the bus in Spudracer's thread. I guess nothing is sacred. Did you come here to enrich your experience of owning a Crossfire? No, because you didn't (and wouldn't) own one. Did you come here to glean information and modding tips from SRT owners, establish a relationship with Rob @ Needswings, build a rapport with Rudy, and use their mods in pursuit of building a faster "AMG"? YES.

Now, you own a Porsche -- a "premium" brand which shares nothing in common with the SRT (except the stereo, LOL). Yet, you still log into the Crossfire forums every day, and bless us with your input.

And there's nothing wrong with that. You and I have built an extremely strong friendship as a result of you being on this forum. You have helped me with my car more times than I can count, and I am forever grateful. I'm sure Anthony could echo my sentiments.

I just tire of the degrading references to the "mighty SRT engineers" and "lot queens" and "dealership failures". We could really go without hearing that.

Some of us can't afford Porsches. Some of us wouldn't have them, regardless.

All the best,

 

Well, the engineers I met and talked to in Detroit....did over see the project, and made sure the design given Karmann was produced. I am sure there were things that could have been improved but wouldn't have stayed within the budget and guidelines they were given on the final approval. But, Blue Eyes wanted to know if the extra expenditure was justified in buying a dual over a single and the answer is a simple YES. Buy the dual. Your acceleration will be greater thus turning a 0-100 in a faster time....How that BlueEyes....????? Good enough...and I have proven that from the get go as has Woody, and Rob...and ................

 

my last replies are in red. again i await a factual reply as to what the engineers did to the betterment of the xfire.

 

They didn't do anything but oversee what was approved....AMG supplied the engine to Karmann.... NO AMG involvement ...none and it a good thing too. Because they would have put that DAMN ugly STAR on the front of it.......lol............

 

Can't we all just get along?

 

LMAO>.....that even looks like Steve and I.....

 

Sometimes, it's more important to be nice than to be right.

So, you win, Steve.

Cheers,

 

the crossfire is a beautiful car again in Italy I bought two, it is a particular line either love it or hate it, it's a car that can have the same great performance and higher self much more expensive and this is a big advantage sorry I live in Italy where if you do not no one can be of help to think to mount the module tcu gearshift eurocharged of my SRT6 has stagnated 6 months from my car tuners for various problems: ((

 

this is my srt 6 without filter and without pulley, only tcu eurocharged gearshift pedal gear and final retune with modified exhaust valve open / closed style porsche
as there seems to me to go?
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