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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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You don't like italian?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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You don't like italian?
No, I don't. I LOVE Italian! I married one LOL
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Dcai amg? Not needswings?
It is original equipment on all SRT6. Open your hood and look at two air ducts, then look through the grille to see the two inlets. One on each side. nothing but cold air will get in.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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No, I don't. I LOVE Italian! I married one LOL
oHHHH!!!that's good!!!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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It is original equipment on all SRT6. Open your hood and look at two air ducts, then look through the grille to see the two inlets. One on each side. nothing but cold air will get in.
so you do not replace the advice of cai?, and leave the original srt 6?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by arado
It is original equipment on all SRT6. Open your hood and look at two air ducts, then look through the grille to see the two inlets. One on each side. nothing but cold air will get in.

severely restricted cold air comes in from the factory, stock restricts ~ 40whp
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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severely restricted cold air comes in from the factory, stock restricts ~ 40whp
then there is no difference in the shot 0-100 mounting the cai single or double?'m interested in this, thank you
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by arado
It is original equipment on all SRT6. Open your hood and look at two air ducts, then look through the grille to see the two inlets. One on each side. nothing but cold air will get in.
Dual intake? Yes. Cold air intake? Not really. Once the air hits the hot filters sitting over the engine, it is no longer cold. As Rob stated, the OEM intake is VERY restrictive.

blueeyes147, as Doc stated before, you will have more acceleration with the DCAI over the single and would give you faster 0-100 km/h.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedsWings
severely restricted cold air comes in from the factory, stock restricts ~ 40whp
It meets AMG requirements.It's a hand built high performance super charged engine. Meets my requirements too.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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It meets AMG requirements.It's a hand built high performance super charged engine. Meets my requirements too.
It met Daimler Chrysler standards, AMG did what they were told.
For all we know they were assembled by cheap labor from the third world out of second rate parts. Maybe they never got the label attached because the assembler could not sign his name and having all engines signed with an X would have given the game away.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Dual intake? Yes. Cold air intake? Not really. Once the air hits the hot filters sitting over the engine, it is no longer cold. As Rob stated, the OEM intake is VERY restrictive.

blueeyes147, as Doc stated before, you will have more acceleration with the DCAI over the single and would give you faster 0-100 km/h.
AMG does not put air filters in front of the radiator as does aftermarket DCAI. I accept no blockage, I want a cool engine.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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I've gotta say that AMG does a good job, and let's not forget the SRT engineers that improved on the AMG ground work. What were talking about here is improving performance over stock. There is no doubt that either one of the Needswings intakes results in superior performance over stock. I started stock, bought the single and upgraded later to the double. The Needswings single gave me more power than the Code 3 supercharger pulley. Chew on that for a while. However, I have a SRT and can't expound on the virtues of an intake on a N/A Crossfire. I'll leave that to others. Let me just say that no product of Needswings has disappointed and I'll continue to purchase whatever Rob believes in.

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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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AMG does not put air filters in front of the radiator as does aftermarket DCAI. I accept no blockage, I want a cool engine.
First off, the stock SRT-6 setup does provide substantial performance over the N/A and it is a great car to drive as is. However, you cannot deny the physics of hot air going into an engine. It is less dense providing less air in the combustion chamber.

Secondly, the stock intake is like sucking in liquid through one of those straws that you use to mix creamer with your coffee. The Needswings setup dramatically improves the airflow. The proof is in the pudding when you are at the drag strip or on the dyno. Compare the dynos or drag strip times of those who have a stock intake vs. a single or dual NW CAI setup.

The air filters that Rob provides with the single and dual NW CAIs would not hamper the cooling of the radiator in my opinion. If you are worried about heat, don't step on the gas.

Manufacturers like to play it super safe. We have too many lawyers that are willing to make a quick buck over the slightest thing.
 

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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 03:38 AM
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so most of you recommend the double cai for performance and for the 0-100, and that its much higher cost is justified
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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It is justified if you drag race. Amg does not build dragsters. Just 150 mph in the curves.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
I've gotta say that AMG does a good job, and let's not forget the SRT engineers that improved on the AMG ground work.
Les
what exactly did daimler do to improve on the amg design les? body wasnt designed by amg and the driveline wasnt designed by chrysler. what exacty did the mighty srt engineers do?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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The SRT documentary indicates cooling for one but I'm not going to argue with those that disagree. This stock vs. modded is similar to the argument about putting Mercedes badges on a Crossfire. IMO anyway. So good day to all, love your cars, stock or otherwise, even turbo Porsches. Peace, Love, Happiness ..... and AMG's/SRT's. Lot's of Needswings dual CAI's are being put on AMG's finest non SRT's too. I wonder why?

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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
The SRT documentary indicates cooling for one but I'm not going to argue with those that disagree. This stock vs. modded is similar to the argument about putting Mercedes badges on a Crossfire. IMO anyway. So good day to all, love your cars, stock or otherwise, even turbo Porsches. Peace, Love, Happiness ..... and AMG's/SRT's. Lot's of Needswings dual CAI's are being put on AMG's finest non SRT's too. I wonder why?

Les
not a very answer les. in regards to cooling , if they engineered a better cooling setup they failed. look at your grille and lower grilles and then look at a slk32 opening. thats why my car ran cooler with a supercooler than grips did with the same supercooler
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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I'm not going to argue because I don't have proof and I'm not an engineer. I'll just leave it at that and accept that the SRT engineers are liars.

Les
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
what exactly did the mighty srt engineers do?
They made your kidneys rattle with the suspension upgrade they gave the SRT6.
 
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