<smile> thanks Chris - yup the driveway has been extended (it was 2/3rds garden) since the 2 younglings having their own cars +1 for "The Boss" and 2 for me meant that good parking was a prerequisite for any new house. The Ram is actually up for sale as well, just 19,500 miles and pretty much immaculate ("The Boss" is trying to persuade me that 1 car is enough - and while I'm not sure I agree with her it's a short-term solution)