Have you looked at the Mandrus wheel lineup? I don't know about these, but the Mandrus have the correct center bore also, so no hubcentric rings needed. I was on the fence for a long time about giving up my OEM's and got a deal from a member when he decided to go another route and put his Wilhem models up for sale. Every time I stop and look at them... I like them even more.. (pics in my gallery if you want a look).