Originally Posted by
sk8erjosh09
No one's disagreeing with what you keep repeating... This is basic knowledge.
What you don't understand is that 10 horse is 10 horse... Obviously the engine could use the extra air.
Now try to understand how much more the NA intake is restricted. The screens, elbow with blockage, ribs in the box that's on the engine getting heat soaked, thin cheap small obstructed tubes that heat soak after 5 minutes of driving, running from tiny itty bitty ports in the front...
Drive your car 100 miles straight onto a dyno, and run it. Put the needswings dual on that NA (that doesn't even need that much), run it 100 miles straight onto a dyno and come back to me with "mild gains".... Don't worry I'll wait.
Ok man lol.
I'm telling you right now my car is actually quite a bit faster with big ole stainless tubes, K&N's and a cut down exhaust. Mine's a V8 so it'll take better to mods but still... You're naive to think there are no gains to be made moving away from an intake that's made from a company that has effeciency, cost, durability, looks and quietness on their minds vs.... wait for it.... performance PERIOD.
Are we done with the lol yet? How about facts? Comparing a modified V8 to a stock V6 is meaningless. I'm not naive about any of this subject matter, I'm quite aware of the design and cost parameters in play with the OE intake system. None of you have any evidence showing any power gain (from a cold air system) on a stock NA V6 as installed in a Crossfire. You all seem to think, feel, or believe it must though. I have not read any manufacturer of a system for a NA Crossfire claim, much less substantiate, a claim of more power. I've seen CFM referenced by some manufacturers and that is meaningless if the engine has no need for that CFM.
Show me facts not how you "feel".
Until then save yourself some keystrokes.
One last thing, you have those Tornado things on you intake right?
I've heard that those things are awesome and you pickup about 10 extra horsepower, you can get them on eBay so you know their legit.