Originally Posted by ZX2 Nick

Are we done with the lol yet? How about facts? Comparing a modified V8 to a stock V6 is meaningless. I'm not naive about any of this subject matter, I'm quite aware of the design and cost parameters in play with the OE intake system. None of you have any evidence showing any power gain (from a cold air system) on a stock NA V6 as installed in a Crossfire. You all seem to think, feel, or believe it must though. I have not read any manufacturer of a system for a NA Crossfire claim, much less substantiate, a claim of more power. I've seen CFM referenced by some manufacturers and that is meaningless if the engine has no need for that CFM.
Show me facts not how you "feel".
Until then save yourself some keystrokes.

One last thing, you have those Tornado things on you intake right?
I've heard that those things are awesome and you pickup about 10 extra horsepower, you can get them on eBay so you know their legit.

Originally Posted by amx1397

I believe you are a trol,
, I'm out

Originally Posted by Indelibility

Go home, you're drunk.

Originally Posted by maxcichon

Now, that's just not nice, guys.

Really.

And now I have to go drown my sorrows because all of my work has been...DEBUNKED!

God, I HATE that.

Seriously, didn't Rob have all of this info (dyno pulls/air bench results) in a thread here? Or was it on Needswing's website.

ZXZ, years ago I measured all of the incredible convolutions built into that plastic wonder DC calls an airbox, and, while I have no notes from that time, one of the cross sections was on the order of 2.125" average diameter (3.6 square inches area). While changing directions 90 degrees. It's a real POS.

Honest.

Originally Posted by Da55id

The stock MB intake is a compromise with a high priority given to damping intake noise. Many drivers are sensitive to such noise and the engineering "cost" to minimize this noise is to create the baffling design that begins to look like a muffler. Modders care little about such restrictions and noise so we open it up and the flow improves things especially when the car is tuned to take advantage of the freer airflow.

Originally Posted by Mrmiata

I'd just like to see Goober-Boy here provide one shred of fact that our cars don't utilize the increased air flow. I guess the post about ultra gage showing an increased cfm at the maf sensor doesn't qualify.. pre programmed at the factory with a placebo I'm sure..