Yes 180, I agree. Most cars do experience window fogging under the conditions that you have described. With the CF, as I indicated prior, it is so bad that visibility becomes 0. Maybe it's also because a person (body temperature) is sitting in a very small cabin and the imbalance of temps of outside to inside exacerbate the fogging condition. If 2 people, even worse? The first time this happened to me, I was teaching my son the stick shift on a Frontage road soon after acquiring the CF. I had never seen such a fogging and it took the a/c a long time to clear the window. I appreciate your sensitivity and knowledge and thank you for your continued responses! I just order the wiper flange for $2.70. They wanted me to come in and prepay but I talked the parts guy into ordering the part "on credit". The plastic cover for the bolt on the wiper is around $15. Was missing when I purchased the CF. Not a big deal. Thanks again.