Originally Posted by wolfstalker

You people seem to know a lot about the state of the electronics used by MB in the Crossfire. I am still waiting to get the SKREEM from MDP installed and, hopefully, starting and running as it should. The weather was the gremlin this time. I was struck by this statement:

"These basic scan tools will give you the Down Link Connector (DLC) codes that are generically required by the OBDII rules. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of our crossfires have proprietary access to several functions to help their dealerships. An honest company would allow you access to your own stuff with reasonable security. I really like the car I bought but will NEVER buy anything like it again without first researching things like programming for new keys and the like."

I am asking you guys with knowledge of this situation to expand a bit about how FCA (now) and MB (always) are failing to help us fix what they - in their previous partnership - foisted on us. As I see it, the Chrysler dealers are worthless - don't have the part, the tools or the expertise to service the car, and their management is uninterested in rectifying this. MB (perhaps) can use their tools and expertise but won't service the car as they do an SLK. Neither seems to give a **** about us. The idea that they purposely designed, built and sold these systems so as to "lock-in" service functions to their dealerships exclusively seems quite possible to me - given the history of the german auto firms and emissions evasion. Could you give me concisely your concept of how they did this. Not the scanner tech stuff but how Daimler Chrysler screwed us -advertantly or inadvertently by restricting these codes, vehicle specific coding, all that.

I'm looking for a way to explain our situation to the lawyer...

BTW, someone today said something nice about me and offered to chip in on the trial test with MDP. Not necessary - I merely floated that idea to see how many effected out there would act together. Not encouraging response. I prefer to pursue this with my dime. But still, for the good of all.