am new to the crossfire. would like to learn to scan it so i can fix it and prevent failures-the most common i mean.
will appreciate advice on what scanner to get.
i found this that seems a practical and still very economical solution.

what you guys think, based on your experience?

thanks

 

Not posing as any kind of an expert but I think Daimler has locked things up for the dealers with their scan tools. We can buy the generic ones and do some things but just keep that in mind when you buy one. I don't think you can go wrong for the price. I bought the Launch CReader 619 for a lot more. It is supposed to reset ABS and airbag faults. The problem is that it only works on cars built after 2010. I have a tool chest drawer full of scanners and find using the least expensive one does everything I need most of the time.

 

thank you very much for your advice. i hope the proposed scanner does well with my 2005 xf. at least for some basic things like tire pressure, camshaft and crankshaft sensors.
will try if i dont get any more advice for others.
thanks again.
so much to learn... but it is fun learning.

 

I don't think it will work for the tire pressure monitoring system. The others you mentioned yes..

 

then... which others could do the tires? i ask because i have the light on tires so would like to learn about it.
how could i find out what others are capable?
thanks

 

better still... what can i learn with that scanner for my 2005 limited coupe?
what can i check?
i know, the ad shows many details, but how can i really make use of it?
how can any1 decide which is good for his needs?
or this issue of deciding which scanner is what you need is as complex as many others?
thanks

 

These basic scan tools will give you the Down Link Connector (DLC) codes that are generically required by the OBDII rules. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of our crossfires have proprietary access to several functions to help their dealerships. An honest company would allow you access to your own stuff with reasonable security. I really like the car I bought but will NEVER buy anything like it again without first researching things like programming for new keys and the like.

What I suggest for you is to search for OBDII codes and you will see to what these universal scanners have access. It is a bit technical and often vague..

 

thank you sir. you have been very helpful.

 

You are certainly welcome and I'm glad you are stimulating these conversations. I am hoping the members with genuine knowledge will chime in to add and correct..

 

from the moment i saw pics of it at its launching, i was fascinated. to me is the most beautiful car ever. i admired the bugati atlantic, the chrysler concept atlantic, and similar cars, but never saw 1 that i liked so much. perfect to my taste.
and when recently i learned that crossfires were available at such a great price i couldnt resist. searched for the nearest and at fair price, and got it. like new! (at least it is the way it looks). really, well kept, no rain or rust, a delight to drive. it really looks like new, and people keep telling me how beautiful my new car looks.
anyway, i learned about this group and have been learning about it. so much to learn, by the way. with all these advances in electronics, is hard to catch up.
and when i began to see the problems that some have i got scared. now am getting a position where i enjoy the car, and am trying to learn what is within my reach of knowledge and with that, do what is practical and enjoy the most fantastic car i ever saw.

 

am getting the scanner, but 1st have to learn all about it-that i hope the manual will help. am hearing that is crucial to learn what and how to play with it because doing some things or a certain way may damage something into the car. dont know what but it seems possible. will not do anything before asking here and anywhere. just in case.

 

Phil, inexpensive scanners will do no more damage than resetting fuel/air trims to default which could make a deteriorating engine initially idle rough or be difficult to start. I do know of one instance where a poorly running engine would not start after a battery replacement which is the equivalent of clearing the DTCs that scanners can do. A "scanning/programming tool" is another animal. There are scanner / programmer tools but they tend to be expensive. Of the half dozen pcm tools that I own two of them will do programming and they are for my camaros. Again, the ones that can reprogram are what I consider expensive ie the DRBIII for our crossfires.

 

thanks again for the input. so much to learn, so much fun! and dealing with people like you, life is easier and more enjoyable.

 

You people seem to know a lot about the state of the electronics used by MB in the Crossfire. I am still waiting to get the SKREEM from MDP installed and, hopefully, starting and running as it should. The weather was the gremlin this time. I was struck by this statement:

"These basic scan tools will give you the Down Link Connector (DLC) codes that are generically required by the OBDII rules. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of our crossfires have proprietary access to several functions to help their dealerships. An honest company would allow you access to your own stuff with reasonable security. I really like the car I bought but will NEVER buy anything like it again without first researching things like programming for new keys and the like."

I am asking you guys with knowledge of this situation to expand a bit about how FCA (now) and MB (always) are failing to help us fix what they - in their previous partnership - foisted on us. As I see it, the Chrysler dealers are worthless - don't have the part, the tools or the expertise to service the car, and their management is uninterested in rectifying this. MB (perhaps) can use their tools and expertise but won't service the car as they do an SLK. Neither seems to give a **** about us. The idea that they purposely designed, built and sold these systems so as to "lock-in" service functions to their dealerships exclusively seems quite possible to me - given the history of the german auto firms and emissions evasion. Could you give me concisely your concept of how they did this. Not the scanner tech stuff but how Daimler Chrysler screwed us -advertantly or inadvertently by restricting these codes, vehicle specific coding, all that.

I'm looking for a way to explain our situation to the lawyer...

BTW, someone today said something nice about me and offered to chip in on the trial test with MDP. Not necessary - I merely floated that idea to see how many effected out there would act together. Not encouraging response. I prefer to pursue this with my dime. But still, for the good of all.

 

Hi Guys ,
You Wolfstalker are very noble to help everyone with the skreem issue . I know Emery has offer to help you with this skreem situation and its nice to know there are good people out there .As you can see there are a few here on the forum that can be very negative epec with some of us new to these cars. My car is no where as nice as you guys and I am on the lower end of the fixed income level to have as nice a car as you guys have, so as you all may know I paid $1700 back in Nov 2018 for a high mileage Crossfire blaze red 6 speed coupe although my car is running it could one day go the way of many other Crossfires, that is what scares me since last week I had a episode where I went on errands stopped for dinner came out and nothing each time I turned key just the idiot light came on I thought ohhh crap !! Wolfstalker came to mind as I was sitting in the parking lot waiting for AAA to tow car and as soon as I had them on the phone I tried one more time car started right up and I went on with no issues since, until the gremlins come out again to scare me that's why I don't want to drive it to far from home anyway It is nice to know guys like you guys who are learning just like I am Emery is a cool dude he is also in Canada . Ok guys have a great week ahead

 

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Cant help but think of the Heinz Ketchup commercial theme here.....



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getting back to my question, i found this video that explains a lot of it:
still i have to wait until the weather lets me try it.
will comment then.

 

Quite a value!
I have the Creader 619. It is supposed to command things like evap cycling and the 02 heater among other things..I was a little disappointed because I bought it to diagnose and reset my airbag code. I think I mentioned in another post that it doesn't work on my year of Saturn - 08 which is actually an Opel. None the less, you bought quite a tool for an amazing price that will work with your vehicles for most issues. Not to mention it will be fun and get you familiarized with these tools.

 

and the best thing with this device is that there is a very good, logic, clear manual written in good english,that you can download and study. so many things to learn from that.

 

surprise surprise! the manual that is available free is about the V version so no-go.
and when tried to find the right 1 found this that says free: https://cloud1.pw/3/go3.php?file=lau...19+user+manual
the thing is, when tried it asks for credit card! so another no-go. wonder if some1 finds it free-really free, and no credit card nothing.