Pizzyguy I'm a bit confused by this; "This is why I don't get upset at people for not searching - if they use OUR search, they may never find what they are looking for.
And if we just tell people to "search first", we come across as asses.

That is why I tell people to search, but to USE GOOGLE and to put in "Chrysler Crossfire" as your first two terms, then add terms to specify what you are looking for. "

Using the box on the upper right of the forum to search gives you the option to use google. Simple put your cursor over the Threads with the little arrow and the options for the search opens. When searching this forum I always use the box at the upper corner and the option given us to use google with that box. The way you seem to go about a search is to leave the forum completely by opening another web page and then google search or am I misunderstanding what you say? There is even an ADVANCED option using our search box which I have yet to explore. The regular search using the box does give poor results, vice the google search, but using the box keeps you in the frame work of this forum which I find easy to use.