Hold on there hoss... what is this forum about??? It's all about trading info and expressing opinions. Because you don't agree with someone's opinion DOES NOT make them a "whinner"!!!

Once again... my Crossfire is a long term keeper and I'm very glad to own one. Does that mean I think it's a well manufactured car with a good suppot network .... NO. For paying out $34,000 and the car having a MB lineage it has been a disappointment for me, first year model or not, I don't consider a car that has had the problems a lot of folks on this forum have experienced a well made car.

For the most part, since the late 70's, I've owned the despised "Jap" junk cars which is how many of you here refer to them. Most were Honda's, a Datsun 280Z and a couple of junk GM and a Ford models thrown in for grins. The latest being '98 Prelude which I sold to buy the Crossfire. All of them combined have not had as many problems that I've experienced with #2815. BTW: Paid $23k for the Prelude, got $14k in trade 5 1/2 years later... I consider that a car holding it's value pretty good.

Grant you tires are a seperate matter but it still figures into the total picture. I agree with you on the low profile thing which may cause some folks who live in the rustbelt and other places with crappy roads with all the potholes to have some issues. However, no matter how you slice it... it was a **** poor idea to put these tires on the car without an "adequate" supply on hand for the consumer. There are plenty of folks within Michelin that will tell you the same thing.

In closing, this is the most expensive car I'll ever be able to afford and for me... it has not lived up to what I thought a finely engineered "Kraut" car was all about.

If this is whinning, so be it...................