ops: :cry: I love my cross fire too. But I am really suprised at some of you guys. We all know first year production cars will have some problems, but NOTHING that can't be fixed. This car is a keeper for me and I know alot of other people feel the same. As far as I'm concered, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth has put out some of the best looking muscle cars starting in the seventies till now, (well maybe not the eighties). I think the Crossfire is a HOT car.

 

Shussssssh!That Kusheen guy might come back and tell you how your wrong! Quality rankings say 15 to 20 cars out of 100 will have problems.The 80% who don't have to listen to the whiners.Thats the way it is.Have fun with the car.Thats why you bought it...Not for the resale right??

 

OK. SO HOW DO YOU STOP CONDENSATION IN THE HEADLIGHTS.

 

RIGHT!!!
(did I spell it korrectt?)

 

Today's Wall Street Journal has an article on how Chrysler is leading the Big 3 in incentives this month. While the XF is not mentioned it does state that DC "...is pricing newer models cheaper than the older ones they replace, and offering many more options on the standard versions."

I don't know how this relates to condensation but would be interested in that again. I have not experienced this phenomenon but have not driven in much, nor heavy, rain but will be alert to this potential issue.

 

Oh, this thread was REALLY about condensation?

If condensation is normal, should't every car have it? Mine never has, and I drove every day through this pretty shitty winter. My car was parked in a heated garage when at home, and then pulled out into some very cold temps. It should have condensed.

So what is the deal here?

 

dunno. mine hasn't 'condensed' either.

 

Ok back on subject....Chrysler had this complaint on other models.Their response was......Some moisture accumulation is normal,only acceptable way of drying the lamp out is to put on the high beams for 15 minutes.Replacing headlamp NOT required.If actual water is puddling inside the lamp housing then replace the lamp assembly.

 

crossfiretech Wrote: "Their response was...... Some moisture accumulation is normal, only acceptable way of drying the lamp out is to put on the high beams for 15 minutes."

Okay, dumb question... are you supposed to just leave the car sit in your garage or on the street for 15 minutes with the high beams on every time there is a good rain? There aren't too many places I know of where you can drive around with high beams on for that length of time.

Why is moisture accumulating behind the headlight housing in some cars and not all of them, design flaw?

 

Could be temperture or weather related.Could be cars parked outside vs. inside.Could be temperture of car when it hit the cold air.Could be some headlamp assemblies aren't sealed as tight as others.I would let the car warm up in the driveway with high beams on if I had this issue on occasion.I doubt this is an everyday occurance for people.If it is you probably need new lamps.

 

Y'all hav ta forgiv me for my spell'n coz I'm frum the Ozarks. I luv my Xfar. I ain't got no problums wuth ma kar. But I thunks weuns gawts da best roads ta drove it on 8)

Light'n guys...

 

Boy howdy, sakes alive! :shock: I can not believe how disenchanted some of you folks are over a $35,000 car. You can't expect the world for this little amount of money...and from Chrysler :!:

I saw one of these beauties in a mall, :P and it was enough to get me to test drive one. Wasn't happy with the power, comfort, interior panels, and disliked the center console and had a strong dissatisfaction over the autostick's design. Everything else, I could customize: new seats, personalized interior, aftermarket performance parts, etc. The tranny I don't think I could replace with a B&M Shifter or 350Z auto trans.

I began to think about looking forward to next year's model to see how these issues were addressed. Your responses have been enough to confirm my initial reaction which was not to buy this first year production car. Thank you. 8)

I had a 1967 Pontiac Firebird. It too had several problems the first year it came out, like having a mono-leaf suspension. Many of these problems were addressed in the 1968 Firebird and following 1969 Trans Am.

I am expecting the same to happen with this model. Already, we see the performance issue being addressed with the SRT-6 model, which has a high perf suspension and brakes to assist the 330 hp. :twisted: I hope to see some of the design flaws mentioned in this thread resolved in a positive fashion as well.

As for resell value, with the introduction of the SRT-6, I believe the 2004 Coupe will lose even more value as the $45,000 Crossfire SRT-6 will have more appeal in the resale market.

By the way, nice site. Keep up the good work.

 

I've seen early leather bolster wear. Any solution to it?

 

It's been raining since Sunday morning (fourth straight day now :evil: ). I noticed condensation today.

 

Me too. Heavy rain in scotland and there it was.

My dealer was a great help. He said turn on the lights for a while.

 

no one is having a moan about the xfire for fun, but every other car i have had, BMW VW, Toyota, Vauxhall none of them mist up everytime it rains.

So if DC thinks its normal for this car then this car is not as good as the other i've owned? all of which cost less?