Go ahead, BE WRONG!

I hated them, you sit "on" them not "in" them. The base seats are real seats, and having the extra 2 or more inches of head room helps lower my eyes so they are below the windshield frame.

I've not had backaches from driving the car for four hours at at time since I got the SE. Both limited were hard on my back, probably because I was hunched over/slumped in the seat to see below the upper windshield frame.

Those limited seats are as big of a mistake as hiring Celine Dion to do the ads for the car.