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If you look close at the plug side of the pan at the far end of this picture there is a HUGE support just to the rear of the plug. Tilting the car to the drain side will trap oil on the back side of the support fin preventing it from draining out. Tilting the car forward will trap oil in front of the plug the entire width of the pan. I am unsure how to get all of the oil out of this pan unless the pan is perfectly level.
That's great info and helps to understand the challenge in getting all of the oil out with the vacuum method. It brings up another question...looking at the picture, where does the dip stick tube enter the pan?
If you look close at the plug side of the pan at the far end of this picture there is a HUGE support just to the rear of the plug. Tilting the car to the drain side will trap oil on the back side of the support fin preventing it from draining out. Tilting the car forward will trap oil in front of the plug the entire width of the pan. I am unsure how to get all of the oil out of this pan unless the pan is perfectly level.
There is 8 liters of oil in there, the percentage left behind is minimal, so why worry.
If anyone is that concerned they can change the oil more frequently than they do now. I change my oil when it has done 2,500 to 3,000 miles, so I should worry about a tea cup of old 3,000 mile oil mixed with 8 liters of new oil?
If you wait for 7,000 miles to change it then it is getting more wear than that caused by the little left behind at the last oil change.
Lets be rational about it and not obsess.
That's great info and helps to understand the challenge in getting all of the oil out with the vacuum method. It brings up another question...looking at the picture, where does the dip stick tube enter the pan?
From where that drain plug is go to the right just past that second fin by my comparison to external pics ref. drain plug then oil level sensor then dipstick tube moving to the rear of the pan.
There is 8 liters of oil in there, the percentage left behind is minimal, so why worry.
If anyone is that concerned they can change the oil more frequently than they do now. I change my oil when it has done 2,500 to 3,000 miles, so I should worry about a tea cup of old 3,000 mile oil mixed with 8 liters of new oil?
If you wait for 7,000 miles to change it then it is getting more wear than that caused by the little left behind at the last oil change.
Lets be rational about it and not obsess.
Just for discussion sake.. no worry, no concern, not obsessing just posing the question, wouldn't the last tea cup of oil be the dirtiest since the grit and crud were unable to drain? If you zoom in and look close at that picture the right rear has the most grit in it.
That's great info and helps to understand the challenge in getting all of the oil out with the vacuum method. It brings up another question...looking at the picture, where does the dip stick tube enter the pan?
Just for discussion sake.. no worry, no concern, not obsessing just posing the question, wouldn't the last tea cup of oil be the dirtiest since the grit and crud were unable to drain? If you zoom in and look close at that picture the right rear has the most grit in it.
Where is the picture that you mention in your post.
"I am unsure how to get all of the oil out of this pan unless the pan is perfectly level" - like was said, my driveway slopes so on the ramps the car is level.
BTW you can understand oil starvation on a hard turn doing damage if low. What people do not understand is too much oil will have the crank throws whipping the surface and aerating the oil (air bubbles in oil is not good for bearings) and throwing oil against the bottom of the oil control rings. Oil in the combustion chamber can damage catalytic converters and O2 sensors.
Ok my method to get the last drop out is moving the suction pipe -down the dipstick- in and out and around the pan so i can hear the pump slurping up the last little bit left in the pan.
Ok my method to get the last drop out is moving the suction pipe -down the dipstick- in and out and around the pan so i can hear the pump slurping up the last little bit left in the pan.
Here in the states, we call that the "milkshake method"
I do the same.
Ok my method to get the last drop out is moving the suction pipe -down the dipstick- in and out and around the pan so i can hear the pump slurping up the last little bit left in the pan.
I did that too "daveesrt6". I like what "ala_xfire" calls it "milkshake method"
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