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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

I wanted to buy Pioneer In-Dash Player DEHP5900IB for my XF coupe. Do i really need to rewire everything to change my head unit, or are those supplies provided from Crutchfield enough (Receiver antenna adapter, receiver harness, DIN radio removal tool).


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What you need to know:
  • The harness does not supply connections for the front speakers, so you will need to run new speaker wires to your front speakers.
  • The harness does not supply connections for the rear speakers, so you will need to run new speaker wires to your rear speakers.
  • When used in this vehicle, the functions of the yellow and red wires in the Crutchfield harness are reversed. The yellow wire supplies ignition power, and the Red wire supplies constant power.
  • You will need to bypass your factory amp by running new speaker wires from the radio to the amp location and splicing the new speaker wires to the factory speaker wires at the output side of the amp.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

i was just told that it will bypass my amp. now if i install the Pioneer In-Dash DEHP5900IB and run it without an amp, am i looking at a better sound than my factory unit or should i just stick with the factory unit?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

hey! i bought my kenwood in dash dvd from crutchfield, they sent me the adapters i needed, and it ran right through my factory infinity amp and subs. the kenwood gps model was about $250 cheaper than the pioneer one if your looking for the gps also. i'm not sure why the pioneer would be so much different. but my new head unit really upgraded my audio performance. good luck with it!
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Originally Posted by banej
I wanted to buy Pioneer In-Dash Player DEHP5900IB for my XF coupe. Do i really need to rewire everything to change my head unit, or are those supplies provided from Crutchfield enough (Receiver antenna adapter, receiver harness, DIN radio removal tool).


Here is the message before i check out.

What you need to know:
  • The harness does not supply connections for the front speakers, so you will need to run new speaker wires to your front speakers.
  • The harness does not supply connections for the rear speakers, so you will need to run new speaker wires to your rear speakers.
  • When used in this vehicle, the functions of the yellow and red wires in the Crutchfield harness are reversed. The yellow wire supplies ignition power, and the Red wire supplies constant power.
  • You will need to bypass your factory amp by running new speaker wires from the radio to the amp location and splicing the new speaker wires to the factory speaker wires at the output side of the amp.
This is the same feedback Crutchfield gave me when purchasing Clarion FB275BT Receiver. Which by the way has been on back order for months!
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

I'm not sure if this helps since I just have a regular headunit.

They told me the same thing, I didn't bypass anything, but I did reverse the wires. Everything works fine.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Default Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

I just replaced my front speakers with Infinity Kappa separates and there is a world of difference over the factory speakers...now if we just had a way to control that rear sub I'd be a happy Camper! I am showing this car as factory stock so I'm keeping the factory head unit in place so I don't lose points.

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head u

I just put in a Kenwood in dash at Best Buy and was also told that I had to bypass the amp. The technician is a really good friend of mines and has been working on cars for over 8 years, 4 of those at Best Buy. I know he wouldn't try to rip me off or scam me especially since he didn't even charge me what he was suppose too! Anyways he told me he had to bypass the amp because the speakers wouldn't work. So I got a 4 channel Alpine amp and some Infinity component speakers. Let me tell the clarity and sound is so much worth it. It sounds great! Now here is the problem. I have no bass! I'm not a BOOM BOOM head but the bass is the one thing I loved from the factory system. Not to much not to little but just right. So now I'm looking for 6 inch subs to put behind the seat to replace the ones that are on there. We tried to connect the subs that are there but you can't do it. Granted I'm not the tech savvy guy at all but this is what I've been doing so far as far as the Video and audio in My SRT-6.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Does Preamp Voltage even matter when replacing the FU? Since i won't be rewiring the amp and the speakers, i will only use the harness and the antenna.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by uniquemethodz
So I got a 4 channel Alpine amp and some Infinity component speakers. Let me tell the clarity and sound is so much worth it. It sounds great! Now here is the problem. I have no bass! I'm not a BOOM BOOM head but the bass is the one thing I loved from the factory system. Not to much not to little but just right. So now I'm looking for 6 inch subs to put behind the seat to replace the ones that are on there. We tried to connect the subs that are there but you can't do it. Granted I'm not the tech savvy guy at all but this is what I've been doing so far as far as the Video and audio in My SRT-6.
Funny you mentioned this but I could tell a difference after I installed my new speakers and amp but all was fixed after I changed a few settings in my equalizer. Eventually I'm putting in rear subs but nothing too crazy.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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You do realize we already have a sub right? What you see behind the seat backs are actually bass ports! If we just had a way to raise or lower the volume of the sub we'd be great...otherwise I'm going to try the caps on the front speakers to see if it lowers their function enough to hear the rear bass. By the way anyone interested I found mini 200uF caps at www.partsexpress.com for .09-.40 cents a piece depending on which voltage you get.
Good luck to all on the quest for better sound!

Terry
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Though it might be called a subwoofer it really only acts as a midrange speaker. I mean it's only 4" in diameter. My door midrange speakers are 6.5" and could probably put out more bass than the ones behind the seats.

I do notice the lack of low to mid range sound from behind me but it's definitely not clean bass by any means that can actually give a nice "hit" but it's noticeable that it isn't there. Plus, I'm doing it in a fiberglass box that will be painted to match the color of the car. It'll look and sound much better than just giving more power to the speakers behind the seats.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Crutchfield told me the same thing. But I took my Eclipse AVN7000 to a local installer and they wired it up with the stock amp and speakers. I think there are a lot of folks that don't know much about our cars.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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How does it sound? I'm looking to replace my subs. I think only JL carries subs that fit in that space. Anyone else know of any other brand of subs that fit in those small spaces. I really don't want to put a sub in a box or enclosure in the trunk.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Hmmm, new guy here ... I just purchased a late 2004 model coupe that came off lease but I haven't picked it up yet. I'll know more about the stock stereo in about a week after I have time to check it out personaly I can only remember 1 Crossfire and it was a simple job. If I remember we used a VW harness and it worked just fine with the factory amp. http://www.installer.com/cars/by_car.php?car=CHRYSLER Search your year model at Installer.com and see what they have to say, they are generally pretty accurate. Another thing is Pioneer headunits are switchable to send rear speakers full range or just Bass. If you select rear to be Bass only you can run the rear outputs of the radio directly to the rear spkrs and have total control over Freq & output level independant of the front spkrs. Just a thought. I hope I like the Crossfire as much as I think I will. I love MB enginnering. The ML320 I bought new in '99 is still going strong, looks like new and has been troublefree!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head u

I had the same instructions but since my speakers were already set up in the wiring harness I figured I had nothing to lose by first trying the factory wires. Other switching the two changing the power leads, I did nothing extra to hook up my Pioneer unit... and it works fine!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Originally Posted by GatorLCA
Though it might be called a subwoofer it really only acts as a midrange speaker. I mean it's only 4" in diameter. My door midrange speakers are 6.5" and could probably put out more bass than the ones behind the seats.
You are measuring the grill not the speaker itself. The speakers behind the seats are 6.5" drivers.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Just installed a new head unit this weekend I also used the VW harness and it works perfectly no need to swtich wires, or anything, factory amp still powering speakers hope this helps I was an installer for 5 years and that's kind of standard on alot of german made cars when putting in a aftermarket radio.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

Originally Posted by tom2112
Crutchfield told me the same thing. But I took my Eclipse AVN7000 to a local installer and they wired it up with the stock amp and speakers. I think there are a lot of folks that don't know much about our cars.
So they connected the Eclipse directly to the factory harness with no re-wiring and everything works...including the rear subs?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Crutchfield tells me i need to rewire everything just to change my factory head unit?

So they connected the Eclipse directly to the factory harness with no re-wiring and everything works...including the rear subs?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Crooked Tree:
I'm not sure how they wired it. When I took it in, the guy told me all kinds of crazy sh*t, including that the factory stereo was wired to the amp with fiber optics. I told him flat out that I knew that wasn't true, and he argued with me that he had called the manufacturer. I asked him if he meant Pioneer or Karman or Mercedes or Chrysler, and he didn't know what to say.

Anyway, I left. When I came back to ask him about wiring in my rear view camera, he changed his tune. He still charged me too much, but I wanted it done professionally, and didn't want to tear my brand new SRT apart. I paid $250 for the total install, remove old head, wire new head and wire in GPS and rear view camera.
 
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