I have a sapphire silver coupe and i was wanting to do something different with my wing. I did a little Photoshop to get a look at what it would like black. I have dark tints (20%), so my hatch window is almost black already, and i think it will carry the darkness down well.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/galle...0/ppuser/12941
https://www.crossfireforum.org/galle...0/ppuser/12941
The 2nd picture was before i got my tints, but you can see how dark they really are in the first pic. Any opinions on black on sapphire silver? Was also considering a SRT wing. Anyone know prices on a SRT, again thinking black or sapphire silver to match.

 

If you're asking for opinions, then here's mine:
I do not care for the black wing.
Maybe if you painted the hood, roof, and hatch black, but not just the wing (Actually, having the hood/roof/hatch black may look good).
An SRT wing would be OK, but I'm not sure how much they are; and come to think of it, I've never seen one on a non-SRT.

Good luck.

 

I don't think I want to paint all that. And I have seen some non SRT with SRT wings before, someone here as done a conversion (SRT rims, bumper, and spoiler).

 

I painted my roof gloss black and i have been thinking about doing the wing, lower part of hatch, and recessed part of rear bumper.
It would look cool. In my opinion.

 

Don't care for it Romio, it kinda looks like it was damaged, replaced and has yet to be painted. Stryfox's idea may flow a bit better but I'd have to see it.

Pat

 

I agree...or take it one more panel down below the wing, so that it flows from the glass down. But just the wing...don't like it.

 

with all this wing talk...

i have noticed a few a beauties in my area in the last 2 days !!!

will it bolt up??

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so sweet ~

 

If that's not BUTT UGLY!!!...

 

See!!! It is a good thing there are not a lot of aftermarket parts for our cars...If you can call those parts.

 

~ i want to know how someone in their right mind... can find that wing/moving accessory attractive...

i guess they say... beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

i'm surprised the pics turned out as good as they did... i was cracking up during my photo shoot.



the red race car has some quality fiberglass bumpers... see that high dollar fitment & mesh work.

to top it off ... the blue car (pictured) the license plate says... 'ahed of u'

 

I meant to post this in the "removing the wing" thread, but I guess it applies.

The way I look at the base and limited disrupter and SRT6 wing is style. The concept is to disrupt the air flow over the wing shape of the car to reduce lift at the rear end.

Does the disrupter or wing have to be so big?... no. it's style.

I've got a ity-bitty disrupter on my SLK32 and it works great up to the limiter.

 

Also known as a Gurney flap...

 

I installed my rear spoiler in June of 1970, 6 months after I purchased my car.
My own "long term" road test to determine its benefits, is still on going.
But the final results should be in any day now.

click on photo to enlarge.
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The Blue car is a SATURN...LMAO.

 

Dan Gurney flap... I like it.

 

Note that the SLK style is much more squared off in the back unlike the Crossfire which swoops down in the back. Each of these body styles alters what kind of downforce device they need and how large.

There is no place to put a 'Gurney flap' on a Crossfire... none.

The SRT6 wing stands over 3 inches above the rear deck profile at it's highest and only about an inch at the lowest to catch the air stream that is following the body line and use it to push the rear end of the car down.

The 'Gurney flap' that you have on your SLK does the same thing, BUT, it only needs to be small as the air has already been hitting the trunk area and needs just a little more 'push' on the tail to give sufficient force to keep the car stable in turns at speed.

If you want to get a bigger wing or different style of wing, be my guest. If you want to do away with it on an SRT6, make sure you have your Will or Living Trust in order.

 

Nice explaination MMZ... I often don't finish my train of thought on a post before hitting the send button...

I wish I could find that darned video that showed the limited coupe' in a smokey wind tunnel, with the wing up and wing down... This video was a side view of the car during some testing, or perhaps for advertisement purposes just before the car was released for sale in 2004.

Granted, I do not know the speeds the wind was blowing, but with the wing down, the smoke looked like a tornado behind the car and the air was flowing from under the rear of the car, back upwards toward the hatch, in a vortex. Kinda looked like jet wash, but horizontally back towards the front of the car.

Then with the wing deployed, it was just a bunch of mush, with a slight trail of smoke rolling downwards off the trailing edge of the wing... But it definately showed that the wing eliminated the upward vortex...

Like I said, I have no idea what speed the wind tunnel was generating...

 

ANDREW !!! That's the point... Street cars only need an aftermarket wing for bling unless it was added by the manufacturer for safety and inherent design problems... But here are a couple of blurbs that may help everyone understand why the production version of the Crossfire added the wing after the concept did not have one... Read the autospeed.drive URL first, but also note on the other website that the Audi TT was first introduced without a spoiler and was added by the manufacturer because of "complaints" (crashes) about inherent instability.
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...e/id-2672.html
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_107773/article.html

Read both or forever hold your peace on this subject...

 

As to the shape of the Crossfire without any kind of wing or spoiler. Just look at my signature and imagine the wing is gone. Now... look at the only parts of the car that create downforce... the front windshield is about it... then as the air travels over the car it begins to create a low pressure area behind the car as it tumbles down the rear hatch area. This low pressure area creates lift on the rear half of the vehicle. Now the other 'lift' comes from the front of the nose splitting the air. Mostly it's vertical then swooping back at the top of the nose, so not much lift there. It forces the air around the front of the nose or up and over creating some downforce.

The rear of a Crossfire also has diffusers on either side of the exhaust pipe exit area. You can buy an accessory that bolts on that has fins in this area to help straighten the air as it's exiting from under the vehicle. This area creates downforce by using the low pressure area behind the vehicle to suck air out from under it, thereby transferring the low pressure area to under the car where it will pull the car down.

Crossfires (unaltered) will 'settle' in at just over 75 mph and begin to sink ever so slightly and stabilize. Without the wing (Active or fixed) in the rear, this would not happen so easily and will actually begin to get worse the faster you go.

If you're all about style and don't want a wing and NEVER plan on driving more than 65 or 70 in a straight line (big interstate)... then be my guest to remove your spoiler/wing. If you DO plan on driving over 75 on even straight roads... don't be surprised if the car begins to want to 'dance' a bit in the rear when you do so without a spoiler/wing.

I can actually feel it when the car hunkers down and powers though a turn at over 90 mph. Stable and strong on street tires that aren't even beginning to complain.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it... (But the hammock is still in the attic).

 

Haha, with all this serious discussion about the principles of aerodynamics we've wandered off topic. What about those stunning ricers that Andrew posted pictures of, they're the stars of this show...breath taking.