Crossfire for me and a Mini for my daughter both in our garage and they both do the job.

 

Yes indeed simple physics/reality. Two seat rear drive classic sports coupe vs. 'lil bitty tin box w/crossways four banger wrong wheel drive sporty economy car.

Slim

 

take it from someone that has owned both and driven both extensively ... my SRT-4 was a S2 car with full 3 inch muffled exhaust and a loud blow off valve. the stereotyping will happen, i got a ticket on it at the age of 24 and there is just no fighting it as soon as they see what kind of car you drive ... the crossfire is much slower handles bounds and leaps above the srt-4, has much better quality overall, and demands either respect or total disgust from onlookers and people you associate with ...

those that will respect you are people that realize you work for it ... those that are disgusted with you are those that label it a richy rich kid car ... either way it is much better than driving a SRT-4 and having law enforcement look down at you as some punk when you are driving home at the speed of traffic after a long day of classes and work.

so let me break it down like this:

SRT-4, things i liked: power, four seats, wonderfully comfy front seats.

SR-4 things i did not like: feels cheap, tons of people doing stupid stuff around you in traffic that will land you in hot water along with them, crappy gas mileage, power is useless in first and second gear and in turns, worst side impact crash rating possible, loud no matter what exhaust you buy... you get the idea.

crossfire, base, things i liked: comfy suspension, still corners great, you can use all the power it has on corner exit and it feels great (a$$ slides in a controlled manner when you do this, even with the ESM), nicer quality paint, interior quality is worth it alone in comparison, car feels solid, engine is wonderful with the 6 speed, feels great knowing you are driving such a nice car, with the structure around you it feels very safe - and crash tests point out it is.

crossfire, base, things i did not like: seats (replaced with srt-6 units), needs a bit more power (SI chip + amg air boxes, done), lack of aftermarket (keeps me from spending money, thankful for it almost) ...

so... in general the crossfire just fits my life much better ... the srt-4 would be great if my interest was straight line drag racing but i grew out of that long ago ... and it sounds like you are not much for that at this age even, so in the interest of preserving what sounds like a very productive young member of community, please get the crossfire ... it will increase your chances of survival and project a much better image of who you are.

 

Thanks everyone for your suggestions on the car.

intenseblu and 62thunderbird especially. I would definately treat this car with as much car as i possibly could, and I'm not one to go around treating my things like crap because I value my work that I did to pay for it. The SRT-4 comparison was pretty much right on from what I was thinking too, I know exactly what you mean by the sterotype and I just figure I could be paying the same for the Crossfire as I would be paying on SRT-4 being a turbo I would probably want to make it a little quick then I'm sure you all know how that goes 500 turns to 1000, which then turns to 1500 and just never seems to end. Like I have said before I know that when you get something this nice there is a little more of a price to pay incase something happens, but anyone that hates it that is their choice if they want to say something, I'm not out to fight with them, and anyone that wants to talk about it I would be more than happy to show and tell them about it.

Thats my rant that really has no point lol.

 

Crossfire really did not do it for me. I bought the car based on price and what a bargain it is. What ruined it for me was the same front end on the new Chrysler Sebring, cheap interior, and no manual transmission. Lastly, the ride did not match the car SRT-6.

 

Don't they have "mini" forums??

 

I'm driving around my mom's Mitsubishi Lancer, this interior will seem like a Rolls Royce to me lol.

 

Yea if someone races up to 155 mph you would beat me but anything before 100 mile an hour and mini will school a xfire. Those times are bogus. I have driven both and raced in both and that is not true. I keep coming to this forum because I can, that the beauty of it. Who made you the god of this Forum. I have a mini cooper S and love it and I have a crossfire and love it as well.

 

buy it and enjoy. your only young once. bought my first car at 16 then my new mustang at 18 and still look back and think it was worth the hard work even if it was expensive. you might want to consider checking insurance rates also.

 

also mini's own website says 0-60 in 6.7 so there damn close, so stop the crap of how the mini's so fast it. Would come down to the driver.

 

lets compare the guy to girl ratio of drivers on both cars...

 

I've seen dudes and chicks in all kinds of cars.

 

Why did celine dion have to do the ad for the crossfire? I had to hear soo much crap from friends.

 

That's my main reason why I want this car. Like I said I'm going to community college for 2 years which is really cheap and who knows how much longer it will be until I'm able to enjoy something like this without having to pay any major consequences. Gas + insurance + car payment I will most likely have enough unless the insurance is a ton. I know cars are the worst investment but I'm on of the lucky/unlucky ones who will pay for cars like this to enjoy driving and talking to people about it. If anything happens then the worst thing I will have to do is sell it, take my losses and buy a cheaper car I can pay in full and insure cheaper, but being 18 there's not much that I have to choose from without rates being higher than most.

 

Celine Dion did the commercial! DAMN, this car rocks! I am on top of the world.

 

She had to do it because Chrysler couldn't think of anyone more lame to help them with their all-out plan to keep the Crossfire from succeeding. She was perfect.

 

I can def see the dilemma that you are having. I work at a dodge chrysler jeep dealership so I had a lot of resources to check them out. But even after finding the same things as you, I still bought it. I have just turned 20 and I wouldn't trade mine for the world. I have only had my xfire for about 2 weeks but already I know it was the right choice. You do need to think about all the upkeep though. It is not cheep. But do not let that discourage you. Just keep it in mind when you make you decision. And forget the srt4. They are in our shop for more work than you can imagine. The xfire is on a whole nether level. And get the 6 speed by the way...

 

One more thing, does anyone in here know how long you need to have a job for to qualify for a loan? I know nothing is a set answer but does anyone have a guesstimate that they can give me? Thanks.

 

You're right. Nothing set in stone. Longer is better. It really depends on too many things. If you have established really good credit already, length of employment is a non-issue. If not... it's more of one.

 

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