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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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I was going to throw this out there the day I originally read AMGLover's post... that was a bit extreme and harsh to treat a fellow forum member trying to seek out some helpful responses. Be it a newbie or an experienced XFire owner no one on the forum should blame another owner for his or her XFire malfunctioning (within reason). The reason this forum is exists is to open channels for debate, discussion, Q & A, DIY, etc. for XFire owners and should not be abused.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGLover
English is an imperfect language and as a rule I always assume positive intent in anything said, if I have questions I go to the source. Forums are funny things in that they follow the 80/20 rule perfectly – 20% of the members are the top posters, 80% of the posts are about problems…and in our case due to stellar dealer servicing and the buck tooth redheaded step child nature of the vehicle many more of the posts here are about problems.

When you post on a forum it becomes a public conversation. If you just wanted to know if anyone had a clock spring lock up you would have asked that and not posted an alarming story that causes the first four posters after to fear that their cars will kill them. You may not have asked for my diagnostic, but my post was more about fair balance for those who do not know what a clock spring was, how one can damage it and what some of the symptoms would be. You should also notice that my post has a lot of question marks,No blame, just questions. Your reaction to that post was as if I had personally attacked you and killed your puppy… that it’s not your fault and why doesn’t anyone believe you.

In my reply to your second post I started with “Not casting aspersions” because my first post was not an attack. Again your second post was all about your feelings and how negligent everyone else is…also if you say things like “…later he informs me something called a clockspring, (because it looks like a spring in a clock)…” that does not make you look like you understand the car. It is also telling about your personality that you didn’t get out of the car to inspect the front end linkages or wheels for binding and just gave a “good healthy yank…” on the steering wheel. Then we get to you third post back…but then again that is all about you and your problem.

I’m not in love with junk, but I do enjoy my Crossfire, support the vehicle and the members on the forum who need information or have problems. The only credentials that I need on this forum are that I (like several other individuals on this site) have helped more then a few members diagnose and solve problems on this misunderstood and under-serviced car. If I am not mistaken I do believe that you said that “…my Crossfire is by far the worst piece of sh*t to ever wear a Chrysler badge.” Quote Maybe it’s karma and your car has been listening to you… You just don’t have to spread the misery around.
Excuse me! You say your first post was not an attack. You stated "Your incident is one that is 100% attributable to poor preventive maintenance." I own Crossfire service manuals, and nowhere in those manuals is there any type of preventive maintenance mentioned for the clockspring. You seem to be some kind of self proclaimed expert on Crossfires, so please tell us all, what do we do to maintain our clocksprings? You also injected a bit of sarcasm when you ended your post with "Every car is unique, every owner uses their car in a unique manner. Don't assume that a mechanical failure on your car is not the fault of the operator... present or past (I know we are all so perfect, how can it be our fault?)". To Myself other posters on this thread these statements come across not as help, but as attacks. Finally none of this is about me, this is about a problem that I had with my Crossfire. Something that in my opinion was important enough, that I felt obligated to inform other owners as well as the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The last thing I expected was to be castigated for doing so. Thanks for all your "help", but in the future, no thanks.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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Stick around tool room, just don't read amg's posts.
He can say whatever he wants, doesn't mean you need to listen to him.
I think there is also an ignore feature in the control panel.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGLover
my Crossfire is by far the worst piece of sh*t to ever wear a Chrysler badge.” Quote Maybe it’s karma and your car has been listening to you… You just don’t have to spread the misery around.
Actually AMG... I can tell you right now, for certain that it only has the Chrysler badge and that most of the engineering specs were withheld from Chrysler as well as the Bosch US headquarters... MB seems to have some "proprietary deal" with Bosch in Germany...

Please don't jump to conclusions because I do my homework very well and I have the facts to back it up...

Wait, I should be posting this in the "DON'T EVER CALL IT A SLK AGAIN" Forum...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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To all that might be interested. If and when I learn what caused the steering problem in my car I will post that information to this site.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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Thank you, toolroom; if a sudden lockup in my steering would happen I damn sure would post and spray any advice as to how it happened. It seems funny to me that AMGlover wants pictures after his flaming the hell out of you for consumer abuse. I "abuse" my Crossfire steering wheel and suspension every day, no F-ups yet. I continually drive this vehicle like I stole it to and from work as a daily driver and I've never come close to a clockspring disaster. Hell, HDDP drives this vehicle on the racing track and I don't see anything from him...

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoXFire
Hell, HDDP drives this vehicle on the racing track and I don't see anything from him...

COxFire
I'm not a good example of anything OEM on this car... I gutted my steering wheel and most everything else... CLOCK SPRINGS ? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN CLOCK SPRINGS. I'm sure there's pictures in my gallery... If not, I'll post them...
 
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