12 Sparkplugs!!! Did you know this?
Originally Posted by strupgolf
Coupegirl, I dont know where you or anyone got the idea that I could'nt afford this car. I never said anything of the sort. I was just agreeing with the poster that these cars are a little more "different" from most cars. There is no more reason for 2 plugs per cylinder then 1 plug. There is no reason for no spare tire, all cars have them, except the corvette, and then they have run-flats. As far as Porsche's are concerned, I've had many and only one leaked any amount of oil. Its not a big problem with them and most are easily fixed by a backyard wrench. If and when these xfires have any mileage and years on them, then we can talk about reliability and resale value, until them enjoy your ride, I am.
And Fyrepower, yes the 911 design has been around a very long time because it is one of the best there ever was.
And Fyrepower, yes the 911 design has been around a very long time because it is one of the best there ever was.
I dont know what's STUPID about that statement, unless you're the brainchild who invented the 2 plug head. 99% of the cars today run on 1 plug, so I guess all those designers were STUPID to come up with that idea. Maybe the same person who thought up this was also the one who designed the STUPID cup holder on these cars; now there's a real bright idea.
I knew the engine had 2 plugs per cylinder, but I didn't know the NUMBER of plugs and lack of spare tire was an indication that the Crossfire is a serious performance car :-) That stupid Viper GTS of mine ... 10 spark plugs and a spare tire. But the Crossfire has 12 plugs and no spare. I knew the Crossfire felt faster, but now I understand why it's true ....
Mike
P.S. Laugh a little - Don't take this too seriously. It's a car after all.
Mike
P.S. Laugh a little - Don't take this too seriously. It's a car after all.
Originally Posted by strupgolf
I dont know what's STUPID about that statement, unless you're the brainchild who invented the 2 plug head. 99% of the cars today run on 1 plug, so I guess all those designers were STUPID to come up with that idea. Maybe the same person who thought up this was also the one who designed the STUPID cup holder on these cars; now there's a real bright idea. 

As for Porsches, they are over priced Volkswagens IMO. Well, that's kinda how they started at least.
Originally Posted by onempty
Wow, seems that people are a little touchy when it comes to the crossfire. My girlfriend just bought an 04 with 9K miles and we are finding out a lot on the car. I own all American cars so this one is a little different. I know that it has an American brand on it but this is not an American car. She just wanted something that was different and looked nice. Since the prices of these are so low it made a nice fit. I was a little shocked to find out that it requires as much oil as my Viper LOL and 2 more spark plugs. It does not bother me in the least. I do wish parts were a little more reasonable but that is the cost we pay.
Here is a link to my site with my cars and girlfriend.
www.jmengel.com
Here is a link to my site with my cars and girlfriend.
www.jmengel.com
Pictures of your GF and some cars? Is that just some kind of personal site or something?
Originally Posted by Midwest Muscle
I knew the engine had 2 plugs per cylinder, but I didn't know the NUMBER of plugs and lack of spare tire was an indication that the Crossfire is a serious performance car :-) That stupid Viper GTS of mine ... 10 spark plugs and a spare tire. But the Crossfire has 12 plugs and no spare. I knew the Crossfire felt faster, but now I understand why it's true ....
Mike
P.S. Laugh a little - Don't take this too seriously. It's a car after all.
Mike
P.S. Laugh a little - Don't take this too seriously. It's a car after all.
Vipers are fast, but C'mon, anything would be fast with a big lump of a truck engine stuffed in the engine compartment. Vipers are like modern interpretations of the old Muscle car. Little car with big motor make speed. I know, I have a 1965 Chevelle that runs mid 11s.
Most Aircraft engines have two plugs.
I like the car its fun to drive and gets good gas milage if you keep you foot out of it.
I have a 3/4 ton Surburban with a 454 and it get 8mpg towing or not.
I also have a 2006 Jeep Commander with the 5.7 Hemi. want to talk about a fast SUV that is it. All wheel drive.... and power.. Love it.
and well the best for last a 1963 VW Single Cab truck... Top speed 65mph downhill with a tail wind.
I like the car its fun to drive and gets good gas milage if you keep you foot out of it.
I have a 3/4 ton Surburban with a 454 and it get 8mpg towing or not.
I also have a 2006 Jeep Commander with the 5.7 Hemi. want to talk about a fast SUV that is it. All wheel drive.... and power.. Love it.
and well the best for last a 1963 VW Single Cab truck... Top speed 65mph downhill with a tail wind.
The public has shown how much they admire and demand this car, because the prices are dropping like the Dow Jones in 1929
I have always looked for unique used cars that were under priced.....And coincidently I just purchased a 2005 Roadster LE Auto and GPS Navigation with 12,000 miles for.....19,000
If you want to maximize resale try advertising North of the border however I will warn you the bumper absorbers need to be changed to comply with Canadian standards......The same car as above is listed on a lot in Victoria Canada for 34,000
Another used car that was good value was the Dodge or Eagle 2000GTX 89-92 which was really a Misubishi Gallant. Chrysler took this car on before Mitsubishi had dealerships in North America....I owned an 89. and later purchased a 92 for my sons first car,
"The Dodge was offered in a sport sedan model. The Sport model had full-time all-wheel drive, ground effects, 8-star allow wheels, spoiler, and the 135hp DOHC 2.0 L engine. The car themselves drive extremely smooth and handle amazingly well on account of there anti-sway bars in the rear and huge coil shocks up front. The motors perform fairly well and can move the cars at surprising speeds; in fact the DOHC engine is still used in the mighty Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser. The only downfall to these cars was there high price and poor automatic transmissions, but aside from these facts the Dodge 2000 GTX was and is a great car." > I used an additive in my transmission and it never let me down.
I rode in a mint Turbo charged GTX2000 in Victoria, Canada. It was stupid fast taking most anything on at the light. I'm sure the AWD traction helped.
I'd enjoy your comments.
Cheers!
Last edited by jaded1958cars; Dec 12, 2007 at 11:48 PM.
Originally Posted by cgocifer
I guess Ducati doesn't know engines either. Ever heard of the Ducati Dual spark motor? Yes, it's a small motorcycle engine, but the same concept applies.
As for Porsches, they are over priced Volkswagens IMO. Well, that's kinda how they started at least.
As for Porsches, they are over priced Volkswagens IMO. Well, that's kinda how they started at least.
Originally Posted by fyrepower
If you like Porsches so much why don't you sell your XF and go buy one. Most of the Porsches are based on a design that is older than most of our Forum members. I bought my XF because it is basically a MB with drop-dead good looks!
Originally Posted by todk64
Come on. Did you really just say that? Last I checked, most Ferrari's are the same way too. And Lamborghini. Lotus. These are true sports cars. I can remember when the Cayenne was first coming out, Porsche People were losing their minds. They couldn't beleive that Porsche was going to build its first 4-door in over 50 years. If you got it right the 1st time, why change it? Its also why I love Ducati motorcycles.
As for Ducati, they are my favorite, but mostly because of the history and the fact that I love twins. What is funny though is that Buells get knocked on constantly. They get scoffed at for using air cooled engines, and old technology in their engines; however, they are more powerful, use similar technology, are better handling, lighter, and faster than the air cooled Ducatis. The Ducatis however are praised and admired. My XB12s was the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I recently sold it though to pay for a house. The air-cooled Monsters and Sport Classics have about 80hp and 67 ft/lbs of torque. My XB had 100 hp and over 74 ft/lbs of torque. It was awesome!
Originally Posted by johnhayes6
I thought HEMI's had two plugs per cylinder........Old and New?
WOW! you can all get down right nasty sometimes!!!
My turn!
I like my crossfire that's why I bought it, didn't know about the plugs but I did know about the spare tire or lack of.
Now I've had problems with mine and the dealership sucks but I'm keeping the car, mostly beacuse its worth half of what I paid for it.
Anyway, I'm convinced that Chrysler dropped the ball with this car, and that is what really PISSES ME OFF!!!
The problems you see in the '04 are going to be the problems with the '08 they haven't really addressed anything.
Cup holder, shifter (manual), head lights, and I personally find the steering not so good, lack of feel. You get the idea.
And know they're going to kill it, It's the Fiero all over again......no wait.........GM fixed most of the problems before they killed it.
What the hell are they thinking....
Now Porsche is constanly improving their design, I respect that.
By the way I personaly think AUDI is the greatest car company ever!
HA!
My turn!
I like my crossfire that's why I bought it, didn't know about the plugs but I did know about the spare tire or lack of.
Now I've had problems with mine and the dealership sucks but I'm keeping the car, mostly beacuse its worth half of what I paid for it.
Anyway, I'm convinced that Chrysler dropped the ball with this car, and that is what really PISSES ME OFF!!!
The problems you see in the '04 are going to be the problems with the '08 they haven't really addressed anything.
Cup holder, shifter (manual), head lights, and I personally find the steering not so good, lack of feel. You get the idea.
And know they're going to kill it, It's the Fiero all over again......no wait.........GM fixed most of the problems before they killed it.
What the hell are they thinking....
Now Porsche is constanly improving their design, I respect that.
By the way I personaly think AUDI is the greatest car company ever!
HA!
Originally Posted by Cochezz
It's the Fiero all over again......no wait.........GM fixed most of the problems before they killed it.
Originally Posted by Maxwell
if you searched around on the mb forum, there is a link to a site that sells the oem plugs for $2 each, it's generic, all that mbz does is paint the star logo on this plug and charge owners $10, lol
Wow, that's a bargain!
The Chrysler dealer told me they wanted $300 for a set, and they were supposed to be changed every 15k miles. What a crock!
Last edited by +fireamx; Dec 13, 2007 at 09:48 AM.
Originally Posted by Sidez
what I still don't understand is what the germans were thinking with the cup holder? maybe they all had specific german cups and made the cup holder specifically for those cups..
Originally Posted by cgocifer
What exactly is your website about?
Pictures of your GF and some cars? Is that just some kind of personal site or something?
Pictures of your GF and some cars? Is that just some kind of personal site or something?Thanks


