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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Well another update on my Mods to the Crossfire this time around its wheels++

Total Cost : Around $6100

Wheels : IForged Vip Limited stock sizes... $4000.. D2Autosport.. Inspiration from Copernicus..

The lead time on these wheels was roughly four months I ordered them early september and received them in time for the Holidays, but just put them on yesterday, due to salt issues and that I wanted to handle all other wheel mods at the same time...

Well I am very happy with the rims so far and pictures don't do them justice.. (at such a price I better be) they really fit well in with my other chrome modifications like the grill,side vents, and windscreen, it is not that I didn't like the stock crossfire wheels as I think they are the best stock wheels I have ever seen on a car it is just I needed something to match with all my chrome modifcations and they didn't

Tires : Goodyear Eagle GS-D3... $1000.. Tire Rack..

Well nothing much to say here other than that they are a huge improvement of the stock contis and they are cheaper and no less performing than the Michelin PS2s, and I also like the tread pattern. my only complaint with them is that bellow 40 they seam to get very hard and driving over bumps becomes that much more unpleasant, but then again these are summer tires..

Brake Pads : Rotex Gold.. $225.. Brakeworld.. Inspiration from numerous Crossfire Members

Only had them on for two days so I can't yet tell you if they have remedied the dust issue, but they are still squeeling and I noticed no worse breaking performance from the stock pads so that is a good thing!!

Brake Lines : GoodRidge SS Lines... $110.. Ebay.. Inspiration from BrianBrave

I like these noticed a more progressive pedal feel instantly.. and no more degradation of brake fluid either

Brake Fluid : ATE SuperBlue.. . $20.. Ebay.. Inspiration from BrianBrave

Spacers : H&R 20mm... $125.. Optionimports..

Svarowski Valve Caps : $35.. Ebay

Getting all this **** installed cost around $600 because the rims didn't come with a stock placement for the TPMS so one had to be custom made at the rim store.. if you any questions about the mods feel free to ask.. I took the time and researched all of these products and feel that I made a good decision with all of the mods above.. again excuse my poor picture taking skills and if you need picture of anything don't hesitate to ask.. The last picture is a comparion photo to my car before some of the modifications were installed
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Very nice! So the TPMS does work on them? Did you stay with 18's and 19's?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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sidez looks really good, now drop that bad boy
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Looks sharp!

But I agree......it would look much better a little lower to the ground IMO!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Sidez Mod : Wheels ++

yes the TPMS works with them and yes they are stock diamter and width...

I have been considering dropping the car, but havent really found a viable solution.. Eibach Sportline is unbalanced drop I don't like it, The Eibach Pro-kit softens the ride i don't like that either, and cutting the springs.. I don't know... I have heard many bad things about it + my front wheels are 6mm out and rear 5mm out i am scared of runbbing.. but maybe I will eventually cut the springs..

Thanks for the compliments
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Sidez Mod : Wheels ++

I'm with you on that one......I don't want to cut my springs either.

I've heard way too many horror stories about cut springs to even consider it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Sidez Mod : Wheels ++

Originally Posted by Sidez
...The Eibach Pro-kit softens the ride i don't like that either...
It didn't on mine. It is considerably stiffer in fact!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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andrew had his wheels spaced i think 10mm front and rear and it was slammed on some slk eibachs talk to him he would be the person to ask about this! btw looks great!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
It didn't on mine. It is considerably stiffer in fact!
yup, mine was considerably stiffer as well.
regardless, congrats on the upgrade. it was a massive one and well worth it. looks very classy!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Sidez,
Those wheels look real Classy & Bullet-proof!
They really set off you xFire!
Congratulations on a Job well done!
SF
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I think it looks great, but I agree with the others; drop that baby and it will really look bad a**.

Andrew should help with the lowering product info.

Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
It didn't on mine. It is considerably stiffer in fact!
MsHeredy isn't the preset on the Eibach Pro-Kit equivelant to that of the stock crossfire and the only real difference between it and the stock crossfire springs is the fact that Eibach Pro-Kit has 1 less coil at least that was the impression I was under.. and if that is correct I don't see how it would not soften the ride? maybe it wont simply because it is lower? I don't have an elite understanding of how the suspension works, but I can tell you that the drop that I have seen in your and Andrews and some other forums members created by the Eibach Pro-Kit looks really good and is just the drop I want, but and a big but I fear rubbing issues due to the rims being 5-6mm out of the stock position... I will contact Andrew to get some information on this issue as it does seam like a very appealing mod...

My reason for not upsizeing in rims is my performance concern... extra unsprung weight is not appealing.. not to say that these rims are the lightest avaliable espeically at such a price, but for the beutiful design (my oppinion) the couple extra pounds was worth it..

As for others thanks for the compliments also notice there is no Windsheild wipers as I have recently posted about my removal of them in a previous Sidez Mod thread.. well finally there is a good picture of just how the car looks without them.. and to me it is a huge improvement and I recommend it to others regardless if the car is driven in the rain or not...
 

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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If you decide that you want to drop it, but not that much, cutting 1/2" off your stock springs may be a viable option. Your car wouldn't be slammed, but definitely lower. Cutting that miniscule amount from a stock spring is perfectly fine. The problem some people have is when they cut an entire coil off of a variable rate spring. That creates havoc with the spring geometry.

I just ordered a set of Eibachs, but cancelled at the last minute because I'm just not sure I want to go through all of that trouble just to lower my car and resale value. The resale value is low enough.

The new wheels definitely look shiny!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Sidez Mod : Wheels ++

They look very nice (as they should for that price). The tires look about like my stock sizes did on my TSW rims, but the wider tires I have now look WAY better.

Maybe that's an option for you at your next tire change.

Cheers!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sidez
MsHeredy isn't the preset on the Eibach Pro-Kit equivelant to that of the stock crossfire and the only real difference between it and the stock crossfire springs is the fact that Eibach Pro-Kit has 1 less coil at least that was the impression I was under.. and if that is correct I don't see how it would not soften the ride? maybe it wont simply because it is lower?
Sidez - just lowering your ride will make it a bit stiffer, especially if you don't cut the shock bumpers (as I learned).

If you decide to trim the springs - as I suggested - just trim a 1/2 coil and drive around for a few weeks before deciding to go more. It's a low (no) cost alternative and pretty easy to do in the garage.

I love the lowered look and have driven my SRT since to 170MPH with no rubbing and no handling issues. Rock Solid!

BTW - I like your choice for rims and tires.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Sidez - just lowering your ride will make it a bit stiffer, especially if you don't cut the shock bumpers (as I learned).

If you decide to trim the springs - as I suggested - just trim a 1/2 coil and drive around for a few weeks before deciding to go more. It's a low (no) cost alternative and pretty easy to do in the garage.

I love the lowered look and have driven my SRT since to 170MPH with no rubbing and no handling issues. Rock Solid!

BTW - I like your choice for rims and tires.
BrianBrave I re-read your thread about lowering the ride and I think I can take on this challenge, it is only of my oppinion, but I don't like when a car is dropped to the point where a part of the tire is hidden behind the wheel well to me this drop is to great.. I guess i am going to attempt to cut 1/2 a coil from the rear and 1/4 from the front.. as the front is not too high as is.. do you think with such a miniscule cutting from the springs I will need to cut the shock bumpers? Also at one point in your thread you mentioned "weird bouncing" can you give me more information on this issue? My issues with lowering is that from Motorcycle expereince I know it is a big no-no to lower in such a way so I assume that such would I apply for a car as well...

Thanks for the compliment and your input
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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It's really a fine line to walk. The shock bumpers help reduce body roll when turning at speeds. So if you trim less spring, trim less bumper.

With your car sitting at the factory level, scribe a mark on the lower portion of the shock where the lower portion of dust cover sits.

Once you trim your springs and put back in and have the SRT sitting on the ground, make a another mark, the difference between the two marks will give you guidance on how much of the bump stop to trim.

Here is a picture I took sometime back. I did not do this at first and on hard bumps the shock would hit the bump stop instead of traveling a bit further.

BTW - Eibach tells you do this same exact thing. Lowering is lowering. The shocks are a breeze to R&R.

 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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Just make sure to re coat the end of the spring when you cut it. You REALLY don't want the open end of the spring to start to rust!

Also be careful not to damage the coating on the spring when you have it out and are cutting it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianBrave
It's really a fine line to walk. The shock bumpers help reduce body roll when turning at speeds. So if you trim less spring, trim less bumper.

With your car sitting at the factory level, scribe a mark on the lower portion of the shock where the lower portion of dust cover sits.

Once you trim your springs and put back in and have the SRT sitting on the ground, make a another mark, the difference between the two marks will give you guidance on how much of the bump stop to trim.

Here is a picture I took sometime back. I did not do this at first and on hard bumps the shock would hit the bump stop instead of traveling a bit further.

BTW - Eibach tells you do this same exact thing. Lowering is lowering. The shocks are a breeze to R&R.


Can you describe your picture?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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Your wheels look great but now you have to close that gap.

The Eibach Pro Kit is the way to go. A definate MUST HAVE on the Crossfire.

If you could drive my car you would get them.

The Koni's help too... .
 
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