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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Default Man killed by his OWN Crossfire... a bizarre tragedy.

This story was on a local radio station this morning so I looked online and found the link. It's a tragedy for sure, but so bizarre that it's hard to believe. Anyways, I thought I would share this with you all. This is not a laughing matter, but I think this is the first time ever a Crossfire has attacked a person.

http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=1455740
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Wow, that really sucks. My heart goes out to his family.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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I wonder if he was a forum member?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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A tragic event for sure. Thoughts and prayers for his friends and family.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Wow. That's really sad.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Very sad! it made me think back to that movie "Christine".
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Man killed by his OWN Crossfire... a bizarre tragedy.

Originally Posted by ZERACER
Very sad! it made me think back to that movie "Christine".
I was thinking the same thing. That story is really bizarre and sad.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Not how he imagined going out, I'm sure.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Here is the Washinton Post story.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...r=emailarticle
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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That is a sad story.

as always, our prayers.


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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Man killed by his OWN Crossfire... a bizarre tragedy.

Originally Posted by BrianBrave
I wonder if he was a forum member?
I don't think we'll find out....
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
I don't think we'll find out....
I did a little research. His last name was Kaye. It looks like he was a member of this forum.

Click here for his profile




























 

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Very sad, my prayers go out to his family.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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It sounds like he was in a hurry to get to work or whatever. This should serve as a reminder to us all to slow down our lives a little.

RIP
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Wow, thats horrible. Its crazy how such a stupid little mistake can prove to be tragic.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Man killed by his OWN Crossfire... a bizarre tragedy.

That is really sad. I've heard similar things where, for example, somebody is working under a car without jackstands and a hydraulic jack experiences a leak, slowly crushing the person underneath. Or a situation where a car is on ramps and starts to back off the ramps, crushing the person underneath.

The article asks "how fast was the crossfire moving?". With a 3.2L engine the Crossfire doesn't need any speed to crush a man. Even at 20 ft lbs torque, one would need to push back with the equivalent of around 240 lbs to stop the Crossfire. Keep in mind that this engine can move a 3000+ lb car without stalling in 2nd gear and 800rpm. From a dead stop it has no problems crushing a 200 lb man to death.

Basic rule: If a car is moving and no-one is behind the wheel, run the heck away until it's stopped!

One question that comes to mind is, "didn't he notice that the car was moving when he got out?" There's two possibilities:

1. Inclined driveway: It's possible that the car was in drive and facing up on an incline with an angle sufficient enough to counter the starting torque of the car except for a small amount. Once in motion, the car may have slowly onto a portion of the driveway which was at a shallower angle causing a significant increase in speed.

2. Parking brake stiction: It's possible that he put the parking brake on and got out of the car with the transmission in drive. It probably seemed safe to him at the time, but if the car was slowly (almost imperceptibly) moving, then once the velocity of the car exceeded the static holding force of the parking brake, then the dynamic friction of the parking brake would have been insufficient to keep the car from moving.
 

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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A freak accident for sure.
We have a few members within 25 miles of this man active daily on our forum.
I wonder if they ever met the guy.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Man killed by his OWN Crossfire... a bizarre tragedy.

LOL I was thinking there was a reason I had named my Crossfire Christine. She does seem to have a mind of her own sometimes.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Rest in Peace.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Indeed a sad story.
 
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