I have noticed that some people ask for help, receive plenty of responses and then fail to reply in any manner. No thanks, no reply that the suggestions were of any help or not. I think it is pretty rude to do this. On one thread a person asked for help, said he would take the advice he was given and see what the result was, his only reply was to ask another question not directly related to the assistance he had asked for. He again got more advice and again no feedback was given. Can we spell S-E-L-F-I-S-H?

Advice given and the feedback to that advice should be of help to the requester and the forum members, maybe I am wrong but a little courtesy goes a long way.

While I am on a rant, can I suggest the use of the spell checker, I use it all the time and typos are eliminated as well. I am not looking for Nobel Prize winning literature but opinions and ideas are given more weight if the writer appears to be able to spell and write a coherent sentence, by me anyway.

 

'80, I agree. BUT you may be beating a dead horse on your second point. My kids know that I will stop reading anything they write to me as soon as I see too little effort put into spelling and punctuation. I feel most kids are the same. No matter the age!

 

No dis mi kay! me's spellin's snuff up! I think its the texting generation. I have to say that because I'm reading and writing in spanish every day, I can't remember how to spell. (No spell checker either) But I do have a Webster's dictionary close by.

I'm a real advice follower. I do burn outs like Distant Pulse, remove the grill like Cruzin, have stainless steel brake lines and Porterfield R4S pads on the way like Jane. If we could only convince people that searching is like finding buried treasure.

Just don't tell me to grow up or jump off a cliff, that I won't do.

Les

 

Hundred... I may be a little lost as to what is going on. But there is no need to break our chops over what we said or didn't say. People don't always respond to my posts or help me. So what! I don't care!

Now I am going to shut up and keep the rest of my comments to myself because you won't like them. I am going to shut up before I start another arguement.

 

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What I am getting at is that people respond to a question and then never know if what they suggested was of any help. They may have spent valuable time looking into a problem and then never received any feedback for their efforts. A few of these and the person may think it is all a waste of time and never respond in future. That is not good for the forum in the long run.
If people do not respond to some of your questions and you do not care why bother in the first place?

 

I got you now.... now I understand your point. Some people are selfish. That is the world in which we live. Not everyone is as nice as you are. There are some people on here that are great. Don't let the bad people bother you because life is too short. Be tranquil!

 

I try to help every one i can, some times my spelling is not the spelling but the (two finger typing i do ,,if i look away from the keys i don't know what i amy type,, BTW I just learned to use my cell phone now you want me to learn to use a computer.. if i do give advice and some responds great, if not that's ok too,,to,,two,,2. jim

 

grate anser, thanx.

 

I think it all boils down to common courtesy, and that use to be taught at home. Now a days, familys expect the schools to teach their kids everything, and even though it's really not their jobs, most teachers at least try to instill some politeness into their students. But it's almost getting impossible.
Case in point. Last year my wife was teaching a lesson to her 3rd. grade class, when one young girl kept talking to her neighbor. My Wife stopped teaching, and asked the girl to please stop talking while she was reading something to the class. 2 minutes later, she had to stop teaching again, to tell the girl to stop talking to her neighbor. Finally the 3rd. time it happened she responded by telling the girl she was being "Rude" and she moved her up to the front of the class where she could keep an eye on her.
The next day the girls parents came to the office and told the principal they wanted their daughter to be removed from my Wifes class because she was being unfair to their daughter.
When the Principal said she was just doing her job, they went "Down Town" and demanded something be done. The School Board sent a letter to the Principal and a copy to my Wife stating that 3rd. graders were too young to understand the meaning of being "Rude", and they approved the girl changing classrooms.
My Wife retired at the end of the school year after 31 years of teaching, she said she finally was going to throw in the towel.
I can't blame her.
And I'm afraid things are only going to get worse in the future.

 

My wife was a special ed teacher,, now she is a speech pathologist in the school system,, a year or so ago she walked into her class room and one Girl ( this is 3 rd grade mind you),, picked up a chair and slung it out the window braking the glass and the window frame, the girl said," you told us yesterday we gona have a mother f****** sub , where be she" nothing was ever done to this so called child. Last week a 3 grade girl hit a teacher in the breast, knocked her to the floor,, she was advised not to call 911 ,but to take a few days off and rest. we the American people have lost our morals, politeness, and manners. and until this is corrected, we will keep going down hill jim

 

This is NOT new. Just much more prevalent. In 1969 in my class my home room teacher hit a student on the knuckles with a ruler for talking non stop and ignoring warnings to behave. The girl took the ruler away and hit the teacher. After consultation with the principal, the girl was told to apologize or be sent home. So we had to sit and listen to this girl that should have been expelled say "I'm sorry I hit you Miss Gann."

Les

 

Don't get me started on kids today in school. I blame the parents as much as the kids. The only problem with our education system is the parents.

 

At one time excellence in school was rewarded, now the excellent student is basically ignored so that most of the available resources can be spent on the problem students. These problem students cannot be separated from the rest as their feelings and self confidence will be damaged we are told. Sadly the first separation some of these students will suffer is prison.

 

you are so right...

 

The big difference I see now as opposed to when I was in school, is that the parents are so quick to defend their children even before they establish what the facts are. As a result, children are not punished when the mess up in school. I would have taken a paddeling or any other punishment the school could come up with, just please don't tell my dad. I think parents are trying to be their kids best friends to a fault. My dad was NOT my best friend when I screwed up... he was my father and I am better off for that today.

On the spelling thing. Some of us subscribe to Mark Twains thoughts on that subject. He said he had absolutly no respect for a man that did not have enough imagination to spell a word more than one way.

 

I'll have to disagree about blaming parents, I have a 27 year old daughter that is nothing like she was raised. She was a pretty good girl till she got in to her teen years, even then she wasn't much different than any other smart @ss teenager. She wanted to go to ISU when she got out of high school, the wife & I tried to talk her into just taking a few class at IVY-tech for the first year because we knew she was not ready to do the college seen. We ended up putting her into ISU just incase we were wrong, she was more than smart enough and we didn't want to hold her back. With in 3 weeks she wanted to quit, I told her no way after the crap we took from her about going there. The wife ended up letting her quit, but I said if she quit she would not get funding to go anywhere else after she put up such fit about going to ISU. When she came home she started down hill, started telling me she was an adult and she didn't have to do anything she didn't want to do. Started telling me to mind my own business when I asked her a question. I finally told her it's my house so it's my business and if she was going to continue treating her mother & I like dirt and doing what she was told, she needed to find somewhere else to live. She moved out to her boy friend mom's house at the age of 19 or 20. Her & her boy friend ended up moving in together, getting student loans, credit cards and putting thousands of dollars on them. She hardly ever finished up a class she got the loans for, her & her boy friend split up and all of the cards were in her name. They bought 3 weiner dogs @ $300 each, 3/4 carrot engagement ring, I could go on & on. I let her come back home, but it was the same old crap. We never knew if or when she was going to be home, sometimes not see her for day's. She moved back out and blamed us because her life was so screwed up and we wouldn't help her, I finally said okay I'll help. I paid for all the books and tuition to put her in school and told her if she finished that semester I would pay half of all the college she wanted to do all the way up to being a doctor. When it came time for her to start, she never showed up and they sent me my $ back and I guess she sold the books. That was at the age of 22, after that things got even worse. this is getting long and personal so I better stop, I just wanted to express it's not the parents. It's the way the world has become, it's the things that are aceptable now that wasn't 20 or 30 years ago. A lot of the younger generation has not had to take responsability for their actions and blame anybody but themselve's for things that go how they want. In short "you reap what sow". Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of the younger generation that are great people.

 

There are parents that still work hard to overcome the things not taught in school. It's hard work but we do it. My kids sometimes slip into the local style of speaking so we say something like "How do they say it in <fill in a state>?" And for the states from which our nuclear families come, they will respond in that local style.

Then we ask how we say it in "this house", and they reset to how we're trying to teach them to speak. It involves proper grammar, spelling and something like an accent-less manner. Of course everyone else has an accent - not us! There's no free lunch when it comes to spelling. When the school was counseling the kids to go ahead and write and don't care about spelling, we nipped that. And when they started getting bored, we got them into second (and third) languages. Etc.

I have a blackberry and still compose full sentences with punctuation and proper spelling. And it's sometimes really hard - stinking multi-tap rubbish...

As for gracious behavior here - some people are very appreciative, some are black holes, some are downright abusive, and so on. It's a real slice of humanity. I write my responses with a view to the historical value to those who come along later and know how to use the Search feature. I have grown pretty tired of the same old questions with the same old answers so just don't bother.

And a few people who have been one way streets - I have channeled my opinion directly to them and left the rest of the folks alone.

Thank goodness we still live in a country where we can have an opinion and have a choice to participate (or not) as we choose.

 

i've said it before...i read some stuff here and think that if that person sent me a memo at work i'd have a real hard time taking it seriously. i had a supervisor that would refer to us as "youns" all the time, same thing.

i especially laugh at the student who wants us to think he is smart or credible because he is in "collage."

and go ahead and rip me for capitalization, i am merely lazy.

 

Was he from PA. by any chance?