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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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i wanna get the most bang for my buck on power. i just bought a magnaflow catback exhaust. it comes monday. but what else can i do thats not extreamly pricey.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Hate to tell you but the magnaflow wont give any power gains. But for the limited Crossfire there are a few. ECU remapping, CAI intakes, and there are a few other packages offered, but they can get pretty pricey. Check out tvtdesign.com and needswings.com
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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The NeedsWings CAI will take roughly 1/2 second off your quarter mile times. It also sounds pretty wicked!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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If you already haven't done so, first reset the throttle-by-wire response memory.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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What is your budget?
TVT & Needswings both do CAI's
TVT does some awesome power packages.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Dwidght,

Where can I get the reset for the throttle-by-wire response memory done? What exactly does it do? Is it pricey? Thanks!

-Sam
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by samo59
Dwidght,

Where can I get the reset for the throttle-by-wire response memory done? What exactly does it do? Is it pricey? Thanks!

-Sam
This is a feature in the car's electronics that I was not aware of. The throttle is not connected manually to the carb, but is wireless. The car's computer will adjust the throttle response history to your driving habits. If you drive like an old lady, the response history will over time adjust the fuel/air mixture to accommodate that style. If you are a 'spirited' driver, the throttle response will adjust to that style. I am not smart enough to be more specific as to how the car's computer system does this, but it does. Weird.

To reset the response history back to a factory-fresh, full-bore, hair-trigger response, just do this:

TURN THE KEY TO 'ON'. PRESS THE GAS PEDAL DOWN. WAIT 5 SECONDS. TURN THE KEY OFF. LET THE PEDAL UP. WAIT 2 MINUTES.

START THE CAR AND DRIVE. IT'LL GO LIKE HEll.

The throttle response is now back 'zero' so to speak. Try it. You'll be amazed at the difference. I'm going to make a habit of resetting the throttle every week or so. And it's FREE. And I'm not CRAZY. Do a search for throttle response and you'll find some better explanations.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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No way?!?! Awesome! I know that a car's ECU can calibrate to your driving habits, but I did not know you could reset the throttle like that. I have a slow throttle response, and someone told me to get the throttle reset, so I will try that. Thanks!

-Sam
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dwightdmagee
This is a feature in the car's electronics that I was not aware of. The throttle is not connected manually to the carb, but is wireless. The car's computer will adjust the throttle response history to your driving habits. If you drive like an old lady, the response history will over time adjust the fuel/air mixture to accommodate that style. If you are a 'spirited' driver, the throttle response will adjust to that style. I am not smart enough to be more specific as to how the car's computer system does this, but it does. Weird. Regards.
There is no Bowden cable true, but it is not wireless either. To be called wireless the signal has to be sent via a transmitter like the TPMS, the remote locking feature, the panic alarm and the garage door openers on the Xfire.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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The "Sprint Booster" is a nice addition expecially if you have a 6spd. Do a search for more info.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossfire725
i wanna get the most bang for my buck on power. i just bought a magnaflow catback exhaust. it comes monday. but what else can i do thats not extreamly pricey.
You can move to a state that has a lot of steep down gradients. Of course you have to get up them, but going down, hang onto your hat. WOOOOOOO..
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
There is no Bowden cable true, but it is not wireless either. To be called wireless the signal has to be sent via a transmitter like the TPMS, the remote locking feature, the panic alarm and the garage door openers on the Xfire.
Whatever. I said I wasn't smart enough to explain it. But it works.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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"TURN THE KEY TO 'ON'. PRESS THE GAS PEDAL DOWN. WAIT 5 SECONDS. TURN THE KEY OFF. LET THE PEDAL UP. WAIT 2 MINUTES."

Gotta' try that one myself! Thanks -- my new-used 2005 has some delay in the throttle response at various points, so hopefully this will fix it.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dwightdmagee
This is a feature in the car's electronics that I was not aware of. The throttle is not connected manually to the carb, but is wireless. The car's computer will adjust the throttle response history to your driving habits. If you drive like an old lady, the response history will over time adjust the fuel/air mixture to accommodate that style. If you are a 'spirited' driver, the throttle response will adjust to that style. I am not smart enough to be more specific as to how the car's computer system does this, but it does. Weird.

To reset the response history back to a factory-fresh, full-bore, hair-trigger response, just do this:

TURN THE KEY TO 'ON'. PRESS THE GAS PEDAL DOWN. WAIT 5 SECONDS. TURN THE KEY OFF. LET THE PEDAL UP. WAIT 2 MINUTES.

START THE CAR AND DRIVE. IT'LL GO LIKE HEll.

The throttle response is now back 'zero' so to speak. Try it. You'll be amazed at the difference. I'm going to make a habit of resetting the throttle every week or so. And it's FREE. And I'm not CRAZY. Do a search for throttle response and you'll find some better explanations.

Regards.
Ok i heard that is only for the automatic. I have a manual will it work for that?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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JUST REMEMBER to LEAVE the KEY in the switch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DO NOT REMOVE THE KEY while the ECU is being reset..... You remove the key....you'll have to start all over again !!

Just a friendly reminder
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 2005crossfire6speed
Ok i heard that is only for the automatic. I have a manual will it work for that?
Yes, you heard wrong.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Reset mine this a.m., but haven't gone for a drive yet. The "wait two minutes" part -- know if you must sit in the car, with the door closed? If so I need to redo.

A couple of days ago I reset the FSS (was at -730 miles), but it took five tries using the procedure in the Owner's Manual. The second try with the door closed worked. But it seems to have messed up the clock too, so I still need to reset it.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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some of these features have to be done several times to make them work...as for throttle lag, only a tune, or a device known as the "dreaded" sprint booster will take the lag out. There has been much debate about the sprint booster, mostly about its cost. Many have said they can duplicate it for less, but none have succeeded. Manufactured in Greece for the MB market...it works regardless of what you will hear. Some say, it works too well and makes the throttle too touchy so to speak...Mine works fine, but a tune, which I have as well, would have taken care of it...good luck...oh, I agree with a CAI, SB combination for your best power, but that would be in the 6-7 hundred $$$ market, unless you build a "do it yourself CAI...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dwightdmagee
If you already haven't done so, first reset the throttle-by-wire response memory.
how do you do that?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossfire725
how do you do that?
Look up.......post #7.
 
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