that is an interesting statement.. I bought my Special edition Crossfire for 25K. in new condition in 2006. Don't want a T bird... gary

 

I wouldn't want a T-bird either, which is the car I was referring to... The T-bird Special Edition. They can languish in the same junk hard as the previously mentioned Aztek as far as I'm concerned. And anyone who compares the Aztek to a Crossfire should lose their pink slip.

 

I'm surprised the list doesn't include the corvette. Like the mustang, it is an icon. They will always be in demand.

 

the resemblance of the Crossfire with the Aztek lies within the eyes; their headlights. They have strikingly the same/similar shape. And to deny that is just being stubborn. Sure its not apples to apples and comparing our beloveds to something of mass distain can be a tough swallow but in another time, a toned down, classed up Aztek would have made a fine Chrysler.

 

As I posted in the "Other Cars Forum",
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post597537
Crossfires are already turning up at "Collector Car Auctions".

Corvettes are a given, especially a Z06 from that era.

A Pontiac AZTEK!!!......Forget your pink slip.
Your "MAN" card has been officially revoked.

 

I'll deny that I'm stubborn. And I'll respectfully disagree with you that they are even remotely similar in shape. It didn't even make a fine GM product, it certainly wouldn't have made a fine Chrysler product.

 

Agreed West peterson. Agreed.

AZtec looks like a lot of the Green cars of today. Can you say Prius?

Thjat's a resemblance in both shape, style and desireability.

I am amazed at how many of both the Aztec and the Prius which can be seen on the road.
ugh!

Chrysler made enough bad cars. Please folks ,don't include the Aztec amoung them.

Now,the T-bird...hmmm. I had a '57. Total disappointment when I sat in the 2002 SE. It got worse.

I later drove it. The saleman said somnething about how the car would recapture the dream,the mystic of the earlier 55-57 birds. I told the salesman that fo $44k I could get a prstine restored old '57 and actually recapture the dream. This was, by comparison, a nightmare.


It is not that the new version was so bad. It was, in it's way, a fine redition of the old classic. Safer, more reliable, more solid, more comfy, more toys.

But..............

My advice if you want one.... Don't compare it to the original and you might be satisfied.


roadster with a stick

 

S'ok, my girlfriend and a couple of my coworkers see it.

Its nice to have people agree with you once in awhile but I'm used to disagreement so we're cool.

But just for clearity purposes, I don't think both entire cars look the same.

 

Cruising on I-70 on my way to Pennsylvaia this past weekend, I came upon what I thought was a Crossfire. In fact, it turned out to be an Aztec. I never noticed how close in looks they were.
Here are some significant points to consider:
1. When the driver stepped on his brakes, I really noticed the similarities. Imagine my surprise when the brake lights went on, just like what happenes in the Crossfire.
2. Like the Crossfire, all four wheels and tires appeared to be round. They were spinning around in the exact same rotation as on my car... counter clockwise on the driver's side, and clockwise on the passenger side. I didn't have time to flag him down to ask him to put it in reverse to see if the wheels woud rotate in the opposite direction while backing up, but I have a feeling they probably did.
3. All the glass on the vehicle was see-through. I could see inside the vehicle. He, like me, could probably see out as well.
4. I noticed the driver was sitting in the left front seat of the car, and he was holding a round wheel (which, I might add, seemed to be in control of the front two wheels and, when rotated, altered the direction in which the vehicle progressed).
5. I'm pretty sure the engine was operating on gas, although I'm not sure he was using 93 octane.
6. Oh, oh, oh.... there were two wipers (one on each side of the windshield... on the outside).

 

When I am out driving I find it disturbing when I see a car I think is a crossfire and find that it is not. The black Sebring convertible heads the list. I see so few Crossfires. never confused an Aztec for one gary

 

Gary
You've made several comments about the Sebring. I think it's one of the better looking cars out on the road. What don't you like about it?

 

Part of what makes a collectible is styling and rarity however the big part is people that wanted one but never got one and people that had and enjoyed one but got rid of it to only wish for it again in the future. the more a vehicle is enjoyed during ownership the more it is longed for in the future. The harder they are to find the more valuable they become. The Crossfire will be like the 57 Chevy. Those that own them will keep them and those that don't will wish they could get another.

 

The '57 Chevy was popular when it was new, it was highly coveted within a couple of years after, and was an immediate icon.

 

It's too close to a Crossfire. gary

 

So then you DO like the Sebring, you just don't appreciate the fact that it looks like a Crossfire. I personally think the only similarities are that they both have "speed lines" down the hood... and of course, the fact that they both have wheels, see-through glass, and windshield wipers.

 

I wasn't around when the 57 chevy came out so I don't know anything... and I can't make an honest comparison to the crossfire. But I wonder.... did people look at the 57 chevy on the road back then with amazement at the style? Is it similar to the reaction when people saw the crossfire when it was new?

I got a lot of reaction while driving it back in 2005. LOTS OF COMMENTS and thumbs up everywhere I went. The style seemed new and interesting. Attracted a lot of attention.

 

i'm a general fan of the Sebring, especially the convert, and in black, as was referenced before, I have to take a double take when it's coming head on because it does look like the Cross, and I've mistaken it as such many times. there's one in my area that I see all the time.

When i was looking at selling the Eldorado, I asked my mechanic forr his best 4 recommendations for a fun car. here they are in order:

the BMW M3. Bulletproof
the Mustang GT convertible, 2005 on up
the Crossfire

andd number 4, which he said was a wonderful car yet substantially underappreciated was:
theh Sebring, especially the convert.

That's basically how I ended up with the Cross. Found a Sebring I liked and then on the floor was a new 2007 Cross. Sat in it and loved it from that first second. Then went back to my mechanic about driving it in the winter and he said if I've driven RWD before then I would have no issues. especially with proper winter tires. Then I went looking and lo and behold there sat Ilse, just waiting those months for me to come by.

 

What an ****.

 

I would be very happy with the last generation Sebring. I'm hoping to catch one at a steep discount and trade in the Buick. I coulde use a daily driver within the past decade.

My only reservations are that the Sebring seems to consistently make to short list of least reliable new cars; and that's a real shame.

As compared to the Avenger, the Sebring is elegant and seems a looks to be more expensive.

My choice would be a Sebring conv. Limited w/ the hard top. It just has the look of a car that would be in the showrooms at Gotham City Motors. The somewhat notch-back look is classy.

Anyone more knowledgeable about the Sebring issues; what engine choice should be avoided?

 

My mechanich had said that the 3.5 V6 was fine, and that over the years he had not seen the issues in Sebrings that had reportedly made them known as least relaible. My son had a 2002 and had no issues with his either, and he drove that puppy right into the ground.