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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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What an ****.
Lighten up, dummy. I'm just plain' with ya.
I'll give you the last word on it. Point out how this vehicle reminds you of a Crossfire.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Lighten up, dummy. I'm just plain' with ya.
I'll give you the last word on it. Point out how this vehicle reminds you of a Crossfire.
In his defense, you did write a pretty long post poking fun. In my opinion you were not being an ****.... obviously too much time on your hands and "wierdo" may have been the better description to use.

In your defense.... I still believe anyone that thinks the Aztec and Crossfire are similar have a loose bolt in their brains and may need to get their eyes checked. The two cars are in no way similar! Not even close! End of story!
 

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by West Peterson
Lighten up, dummy. I'm just plain' with ya.
I'll give you the last word on it. Point out how this vehicle reminds you of a Crossfire.
I don't want to tarnish the spirit of the topic so I tried to make this succint. The red lines are the similarities. Sorry for the large size of the image, anything smaller may be too difficult to see.
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I could totally understand if I came to the table comparing our sports cars to the Buick Rendezvous(the GM clone to the Aztek) but there's obviously no similarities there. I found it interesting that Chrysler could produce such a beautiful car for sale in 2004 that somehow shared "some" resemblance to one of auto histories least beloved vehicles beggining sales in 2001.

I included a few 'mutants' variants where I just swapped fascias. The x-fire nosed Aztek appears like a boxy Pacifica whereas the Aztek-nosed Crossfire looks like either a beyond-base trimmed model or a blacked-out custom of which some of you may have seen before. Please forgive the MS Paint work, Photoshop is not able to be installed on my machine; long story.

So again, and again, and again I don't believe the two vehicles could be mistaken for each other but they share some designed details that appear similar. The last generation Sebring could be mistaken for our cars well before an Aztek; that, I can agree on.


On with the topic of new classics of model years 2000+. I would love to talk about the Aztek issue further but we may need a separate topic posted as to not interferre with the author of this one as I am enjoying talks about modern car collectables.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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I don't want to tarnish the spirit of the topic so I tried to make this succint. The red lines are the similarities. Sorry for the large size of the image, anything smaller may be too difficult to see.


I could totally understand if I came to the table comparing our sports cars to the Buick Rendezvous(the GM clone to the Aztek) but there's obviously no similarities there. I found it interesting that Chrysler could produce such a beautiful car for sale in 2004 that somehow shared "some" resemblance to one of auto histories least beloved vehicles beggining sales in 2001.

I included a few 'mutants' variants where I just swapped fascias. The x-fire nosed Aztek appears like a boxy Pacifica whereas the Aztek-nosed Crossfire looks like either a beyond-base trimmed model or a blacked-out custom of which some of you may have seen before. Please forgive the MS Paint work, Photoshop is not able to be installed on my machine; long story.

So again, and again, and again I don't believe the two vehicles could be mistaken for each other but they share some designed details that appear similar. The last generation Sebring could be mistaken for our cars well before an Aztek; that, I can agree on.


On with the topic of new classics of model years 2000+. I would love to talk about the Aztek issue further but we may need a separate topic posted as to not interferre with the author of this one as I am enjoying talks about modern car collectables.
You have way too much time on your hands to put this together.

The comparisons you show between the Aztec and the Crossfire could be made with any vehicle on the road today. So the headlight shape is similar.... but it is also similar to the pacifica and a hundred other cars on the road today. There is still no real key element the crossfire and Aztec share...
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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I don't want to tarnish the spirit of the topic so I tried to make this succint. The red lines are the similarities. Sorry for the large size of the image, anything smaller may be too difficult to see.


I could totally understand if I came to the table comparing our sports cars to the Buick Rendezvous(the GM clone to the Aztek) but there's obviously no similarities there. I found it interesting that Chrysler could produce such a beautiful car for sale in 2004 that somehow shared "some" resemblance to one of auto histories least beloved vehicles beggining sales in 2001.

I included a few 'mutants' variants where I just swapped fascias. The x-fire nosed Aztek appears like a boxy Pacifica whereas the Aztek-nosed Crossfire looks like either a beyond-base trimmed model or a blacked-out custom of which some of you may have seen before. Please forgive the MS Paint work, Photoshop is not able to be installed on my machine; long story.

So again, and again, and again I don't believe the two vehicles could be mistaken for each other but they share some designed details that appear similar. The last generation Sebring could be mistaken for our cars well before an Aztek; that, I can agree on.


On with the topic of new classics of model years 2000+. I would love to talk about the Aztek issue further but we may need a separate topic posted as to not interferre with the author of this one as I am enjoying talks about modern car collectables.
You have way too much time on your hands to put this together.

The comparisons you show between the Aztec and the Crossfire could be made with any vehicle on the road today. So the headlight shape is similar.... but it is also similar to the pacifica and a hundred other cars on the road today. The grill shape is the same as every vehicle on the road. Nearly every pontiac has the same shape grill. There is still no real key element the crossfire and Aztec share...

If we went with your theory.... our crossfires share similar features with aston martins, bentleys and even the 350Z.... so I could say my car looks like a bentley for one tenth the price.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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You have way too much time on your hands to put this together.

The comparisons you show between the Aztec and the Crossfire could be made with any vehicle on the road today. So the headlight shape is similar.... but it is also similar to the pacifica and a hundred other cars on the road today. The grill shape is the same as every vehicle on the road. Nearly every pontiac has the same shape grill. There is still no real key element the crossfire and Aztec share...

If we went with your theory.... our crossfires share similar features with aston martins, bentleys and even the 350Z.... so I could say my car looks like a bentley for one tenth the price.

If it wasn't clear, I never said the Crossfire only looks like an Aztek or vise versa. But in your response that seems to be what your getting out of this observation. And if so, I am sorry. I figured someone here could see the forest through the trees and step up the though process. Please take no offense, I run into a lot of poeple who take things for face value and move on.

But on the topic of Bentleys there is a car that could be had for a minuscule fraction of the price of the real thing. Hold onto your butts...


the 2001-2005 Hyundai XG300/350 a.k.a. Grandeur. And that's not my observation but that of many car auto columnists.

But I just can't shake the feeling that the comparison to the Aztek is just hurting the pride of the herd here.

I mean the fascia of the aztek is a perfect on the Crossfire and if shown only the portion of the car up to the windshield with the Pontiac face, people would still have no problem recognising the car as a Crossfire. And with good Photoshop blending skills, I feel even most Chrysler car salesmen would not notice anything out of the ordinary.

And what you've mentioned about the comparison being made on most any vehicle on the road today, I challenge you to find a vehicle outside of Chrysler that could go through the 'face' transplant exercise I performed above(without chopping the original bits to pieces) and look just as fitting. The redline exercise was just to point out if the car had additional subtle similarities beyond the glaring obvious characteristic, the fascia.

If that can be done, I might just be eating crow tonight.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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BTW, most people comment that my car looks like a Porsche. And I think we all can agree that's a pretty nice feature.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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If it wasn't clear, I never said the Crossfire only looks like an Aztek or vise versa. But in your response that seems to be what your getting out of this observation. And if so, I am sorry. I figured someone here could see the forest through the trees and step up the though process. Please take no offense, I run into a lot of poeple who take things for face value and move on.

But on the topic of Bentleys there is a car that could be had for a minuscule fraction of the price of the real thing. Hold onto your butts...


the 2001-2005 Hyundai XG300/350 a.k.a. Grandeur. And that's not my observation but that of many car auto columnists.

But I just can't shake the feeling that the comparison to the Aztek is just hurting the pride of the herd here.

I mean the fascia of the aztek is a perfect on the Crossfire and if shown only the portion of the car up to the windshield with the Pontiac face, people would still have no problem recognising the car as a Crossfire. And with good Photoshop blending skills, I feel even most Chrysler car salesmen would not notice anything out of the ordinary.

And what you've mentioned about the comparison being made on most any vehicle on the road today, I challenge you to find a vehicle outside of Chrysler that could go through the 'face' transplant exercise I performed above(without chopping the original bits to pieces) and look just as fitting. The redline exercise was just to point out if the car had additional subtle similarities beyond the glaring obvious characteristic, the fascia.

If that can be done, I might just be eating crow tonight.
If you take the saturn Sky, Pontiac Solstice and sit them next to a crossfire you may find a lot of similar features.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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I think there is only one other car that looks like a Crossfire, Eric's other design.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Good one Kurtis!

I had never noticed that the Genesis coupe had the cross lines. Cool.

Since it came out I thought the Genesis coupe's squarish side mirrors were unusual to the overall styling. My girlfriend wants the green one really bad.

I'd take yellow.

Unless its only my area, I havn't seen too many G-coupes, seems rare for a Hyundai.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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I only see two red ones around here, both de-badged, one is blacked out. Very nice looking. I'm thinking this could be my next car.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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I think there is only one other car that looks like a Crossfire, Eric's other design.
Yes.... Very true. I knew that.

Another pair of cars that look similar is the Nissan fit and the Toyota Prius. Saw a Nissan today.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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^What's a Nissan Fit?


There's not much I wouldn't do for a Pontiac Solstice coupe. Those are extremely rare.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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^What's a Nissan Fit?


There's not much I wouldn't do for a Pontiac Solstice coupe. Those are extremely rare.
I think the Nissan Fit is a new car. Here is a pic below. I also added a pic of the prius. They both have a lot of similar features.


 
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The way that grille on the Fit curves up on both sides, it looks like a Crossfire... oops, I'm sorry, I have way too much time on my hands and I'm being an ****.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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I think the Nissan Fit is a new car. Here is a pic below. I also added a pic of the prius. They both have a lot of similar features.


The big "H" on the front means that is a Honda Fit - not a Nissan Fit. Its also been around since 20001 & in the US since 2006. Not exactly a NEW car.....
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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The '57 Chevy was popular when it was new, it was highly coveted within a couple of years after, and was an immediate icon.
Actually West, just goin strictly by sales #'s, the 57 Chevy was the least popular of the "Tri Five Series". which includes 55,56,57 Chevrolets.

1955-----1,776,653 total production

1956-----1,626,843 total production

1957-----1,561,655 total production

But when you compare its production #'s to those of the 1958 Cheverolet:
at 1,216,597, it prertty much clears things up.
The year 1958 wasn't a very good year for automotive production in general. But Soon after Chevy owners got their first look at the new for 58 design, you couldn't find a used 57 for sale anywhere.
I remember my Brother telling me that back in 1961, just after he purchased his like new turquoise and white BelAir coupe.
 
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All I wanted in 1965 was a Chrysler 300C. Worth far more today than any 57 Chevy. could not find one. gary
 
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The way that grille on the Fit curves up on both sides, it looks like a Crossfire... oops, I'm sorry, I have way too much time on my hands and I'm being an ****.
Just keep an eye out for a Nissan Fit for me, I want to buy it as a collector's item.
 
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So then you DO like the Sebring, you just don't appreciate the fact that it looks like a Crossfire. I personally think the only similarities are that they both have "speed lines" down the hood... and of course, the fact that they both have wheels, see-through glass, and windshield wipers.

When a Sebring Convertible is coming straight at me, I have to take a couple of looks wondering if it is a Xfire. A lady, in my town, has one. When I drove up at the gas station in my roadster, she was really giving mine the once over....think she was just a little jealous she wasn't driving my Xfire.
 
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