Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Originally Posted by West Peterson
I think you missed the point: If a Crossfire owner wanted a car supercharged, he'd purchase a supercharged Crossfire in the first place... the SRT-6. The difference in value between an N/A and an SRT-6 is about half of what you're telling us your kit will cost.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Sure - like "why not just by the AMG model?"
For the same three reasons: 1) It may be hard to locate the AMG (or in your case the SRT-6) 2) the insurance on the SRT-6 is likely much more expensive than the baseline Crossfire, and 3) some guys just like the joy of doing it - of being able to say "I supercharged it myself". They enjoy playing with their car. Its part of the fun.
Does a supercharger kit make sense for everyone? Certainly not. But across the SEMA industry, they sell and they do sell well to those of the right mindset.
For the same three reasons: 1) It may be hard to locate the AMG (or in your case the SRT-6) 2) the insurance on the SRT-6 is likely much more expensive than the baseline Crossfire, and 3) some guys just like the joy of doing it - of being able to say "I supercharged it myself". They enjoy playing with their car. Its part of the fun.
Does a supercharger kit make sense for everyone? Certainly not. But across the SEMA industry, they sell and they do sell well to those of the right mindset.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Originally Posted by CarlFausett
If you look at the cars and kits that we have already done:
www.928superchargers.com
then you can see we are well acquainted with kits that are worth almost as much as the car itself. Who would pay $5k for a 928 supercharger kit, when you can buy an early 928 for only $3k? They do. We sell about 4 of those kits a year.
We have developed systems and techniques to keep our costs down without the attendant needs for high volumes in these parts/kits. In other words, I am well aware of the challenges of low sales volume kits, and we incorporate that into our design models and manufacturing methods. Building a kit where we may sell only 5 a year is not unusual for us.
This is our 11th year of business.
On the other hand, I thought the Kleeman price for a SC kit for this car was unreasonable, and I'm sure ours will be significanlty less, which I am sure wont hurt sales numbers either!
www.928superchargers.com
then you can see we are well acquainted with kits that are worth almost as much as the car itself. Who would pay $5k for a 928 supercharger kit, when you can buy an early 928 for only $3k? They do. We sell about 4 of those kits a year.
We have developed systems and techniques to keep our costs down without the attendant needs for high volumes in these parts/kits. In other words, I am well aware of the challenges of low sales volume kits, and we incorporate that into our design models and manufacturing methods. Building a kit where we may sell only 5 a year is not unusual for us.
This is our 11th year of business.
On the other hand, I thought the Kleeman price for a SC kit for this car was unreasonable, and I'm sure ours will be significanlty less, which I am sure wont hurt sales numbers either!
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
I know John has been lookin' for a long time..
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Still waiting to get my mits on a Crossfire to finish this kit.
I think the parts cost will be about $4500 at this time for the non-intercooled Stage 1 kit. And thats the price the person who lends me their car willpay as I am including my labor at no charge. Also - the dyno's before and after will be paif for by me as well as the tuning.
I have all the parts in stock that we know about. The unknown is the boost-reactive fuel pressure regulator (Kleeman style) or similar so we can get a good tune in it. Thats the only variable, and I am waiting to see how a "Boost-a-Pump" works first, before I'm sure that we even need one.
I think the parts cost will be about $4500 at this time for the non-intercooled Stage 1 kit. And thats the price the person who lends me their car willpay as I am including my labor at no charge. Also - the dyno's before and after will be paif for by me as well as the tuning.
I have all the parts in stock that we know about. The unknown is the boost-reactive fuel pressure regulator (Kleeman style) or similar so we can get a good tune in it. Thats the only variable, and I am waiting to see how a "Boost-a-Pump" works first, before I'm sure that we even need one.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Glad to see you haven't given up. There is a turbo project on the table with Corky Bell Engineering. A few are looking in that direction. I was being constructive knowing a lot of these guys. They are looking for fairly cheap HP, and it just isn't there in the limited. If I had one, I would have given it to you in a heart beat, as I am not a turbo fan....but, I love the SRT6's I have, and am finding more HP all the time... If you have any ideas for the SRT, especially the inner coolers problems we develop, I am all ears....good luck with your project.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Wow.
Where did this come from?
LOL. What else did I miss while the divorce was going on!?
Someone loan Carl a car. Mine's busy at the moment!
Then let the races begin!
Where did this come from?
LOL. What else did I miss while the divorce was going on!?
Someone loan Carl a car. Mine's busy at the moment!
Then let the races begin!
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
It's been around for awhile.... Are you done with that nasty "D" yet? Man, that sucks....hope you are doing fine....and you have to come a long way to loan him your car.....where's yours?
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Can you buy an XF on the cheap, toss the SC in there and resell it?
As you can see, the owners on here are in no hurry to hand their babies over.
No offense intended. It's just an observation.
Good luck.
As you can see, the owners on here are in no hurry to hand their babies over.
No offense intended. It's just an observation.
Good luck.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Just none close to him with $4500 in their pocket
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
I would but I already gave my car away for 3 months and it returned in working condition with a supercharger. It also had a price tag along with it.
Might be easier to get another slk and finish the testing, just take some specs from the crossfire to see if it will fit. I bet a member would let you use their car for the afternoon to poke around while they watch
Might be easier to get another slk and finish the testing, just take some specs from the crossfire to see if it will fit. I bet a member would let you use their car for the afternoon to poke around while they watch
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
I'd be shipping mine over if I wasn't in Canada (customs will d*ck me hard). I was looking at getting the Kleeman for my N/A and from the looks of it, this will be a better option.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Just seems the brave soul that donates the test mule shouldn't have to pay anything.....I have a 6 spd 07 + a spare automatic 08 I'd love to donate....but I'd be giving up my Lifetime Powertrain Warranty.....& that's priceless!!
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
We are still interested in making this available for Crossfire owners. If you have a Crossfire that you wish was supercharged, please get a hold of us to discuss.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
Please realize, you come after a long list of people who say they can add FI to the NA crossfire, but to my knowledge, no one has succeeded, especially on a commercial level. There are many here who would be interested, but with another member's car sitting at Corky's shop BEGi for the last 18 months in the promise of a turbo that would take 3-4 months has us all a little timid.
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
I would love to help you out, but the Crossfire is my daily driver and I'm not sure that I could clear it with the wife. 
Not to mention that my car is not stock (I have CAI, exhaust, throttle body, and ECU tune).
I live in Oshkosh, so I'm only about an hour away from you. If you need any measurements or anything, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help. It would be a short drive for me to stop down.
Not to mention that my car is not stock (I have CAI, exhaust, throttle body, and ECU tune).I live in Oshkosh, so I'm only about an hour away from you. If you need any measurements or anything, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help. It would be a short drive for me to stop down.
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I know Corky, and I know he will do a great job.
That said, a turbo system is a lot more complicated than this low-boost supercharger system.
We already have all the mechanicals finished, the pulleys, the bracketry and the mounts and induction tubing. So there is no mystery there.
The unknown is the particular technique we will employ to bring more fuel to the injectors.
There are a couple ways we can do it, including the Kleeman-style rising rate fuel pressure regulator. I know it can get done.
When we supercharged the Ferrari 308 and the early Porsche 928 they said those "couldn't be done" also. Now we have been selling those kits for nearly 10 years.
Stop in anytime you are in the area to discuss.
Directions to us are here: 928 Motorsports - Contact Us - Porsche® 928 World record Holder 216.63537 mph
That said, a turbo system is a lot more complicated than this low-boost supercharger system.
We already have all the mechanicals finished, the pulleys, the bracketry and the mounts and induction tubing. So there is no mystery there.
The unknown is the particular technique we will employ to bring more fuel to the injectors.
There are a couple ways we can do it, including the Kleeman-style rising rate fuel pressure regulator. I know it can get done.
When we supercharged the Ferrari 308 and the early Porsche 928 they said those "couldn't be done" also. Now we have been selling those kits for nearly 10 years.
Stop in anytime you are in the area to discuss.
Directions to us are here: 928 Motorsports - Contact Us - Porsche® 928 World record Holder 216.63537 mph
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Re: Supercharger Kit near completion, need a little help
With that being said, and the SRT's performance being what it is, what kind of boost, HP numbers are you thinking?
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I know Corky, and I know he will do a great job.
That said, a turbo system is a lot more complicated than this low-boost supercharger system.
We already have all the mechanicals finished, the pulleys, the bracketry and the mounts and induction tubing. So there is no mystery there.
The unknown is the particular technique we will employ to bring more fuel to the injectors.
There are a couple ways we can do it, including the Kleeman-style rising rate fuel pressure regulator. I know it can get done.
When we supercharged the Ferrari 308 and the early Porsche 928 they said those "couldn't be done" also. Now we have been selling those kits for nearly 10 years.
Stop in anytime you are in the area to discuss.
Directions to us are here: 928 Motorsports - Contact Us - Porsche® 928 World record Holder 216.63537 mph
That said, a turbo system is a lot more complicated than this low-boost supercharger system.
We already have all the mechanicals finished, the pulleys, the bracketry and the mounts and induction tubing. So there is no mystery there.
The unknown is the particular technique we will employ to bring more fuel to the injectors.
There are a couple ways we can do it, including the Kleeman-style rising rate fuel pressure regulator. I know it can get done.
When we supercharged the Ferrari 308 and the early Porsche 928 they said those "couldn't be done" also. Now we have been selling those kits for nearly 10 years.
Stop in anytime you are in the area to discuss.
Directions to us are here: 928 Motorsports - Contact Us - Porsche® 928 World record Holder 216.63537 mph