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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Default wow...my first oil change = $110.

i was shocked.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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I got a coupon from my dealer for only 24.99 oil change and first service.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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First service was free here in Phoenix... $70.00 from here on out. A good price IMO... it covers the cost of the oil and filter plus a small profit for the dealer.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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I bought my car on Memorial Day. Last day of the month, 5 minutes before they closed (I had already been there the day before test driving etc.). They wanted to get that last sale on the books so bad they gave me free window tinting and free oil changes for the full 3/36 warranty period.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Wow, you got a good deal Bluepony, perhaps the sales guy didn't know it was 8 quarts of 0W40 which alone costs in the region of $40 before filter and labor.

Good thing is that it doesn't require changing too often.

Make sure they don't put regular stuff in it :P
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Why do you do oil changes for? I've had my car for 7 months now and the oil is still on max. Is that normal?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK_UK
Why do you do oil changes for? I've had my car for 7 months now and the oil is still on max. Is that normal?
What exactly does "still on max" mean? Are you talking about oil level?

Oil changes are required because the oil wears out eventually. Synthetics last much longer than mineral. The Crossfire has a computer system which calculates when you need to change your oil based on temperature, driving style and time. Depending on your driving habits, a wrench icon with either an "A", "B" or clock icon will appear when an oil change is required as determined by the system.

A and B refer to the A or B maintenance schedules, basically highway or start-stop driving. Clock icon means time-based.

You can manually check the remaining mileage for an oil change by turning your ignition to the ON position, waiting for a little clock icon to appear, then push the trip meter reset stem twice quickly. A number will appear showing you the recommended distance remaining to your next oil change.

The system is set at the factory for 7,500 miles or a timed period or combination of both. UK settings might vary due to EU environmental rules.

Most Americans have a habit of just changing their oil at 3,000 mile intervals, not really necessary with synthetics.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mouserider

The system is set at the factory for 7,500 miles or a timed period or combination of both. UK settings might vary due to EU environmental rules.

Most Americans have a habit of just changing their oil at 3,000 mile intervals, not really necessary with synthetics.
My UK Owners Manual states 10,000 miles or adjusted according to driving conditions. My last car was every 20,000

Dont know about U.S. enviromental laws but id hazard a guess that EU laws are a lot stricter.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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There aren't any specific US environmental rules governing intervals between oil changes, just ones specifying the disposal of waste oil.

They should have though, people change their oil way too often for the available technology and advancement of both engines and lubricants.

EU environmental guidelines and rules are far more progressive in this aspect.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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1st was free, i go in tomorrow and will ask if there is any improved reflash for the computer or ecu? we'll see!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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What is the time interval recommendation? I change oil on my Sebring convertible at about 3 months. If I waited the 3000 miles recommended for standard oil mileage, I would change oil once a year. I don't drive my convertible when it rains or snows and infrequently in the winter. I will probably keep the same routine with the roadster. That means my oil change routine will be based on time rather than on mileage.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mouserider
...8 quarts of 0W40 :P
8qts??

just paid 74$ for oil change at the dealership and the bill sez 6 qts. book says 6 qts too.


huh??

dan
 
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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YES 8 to 8.5 quarts with filter change. Book was wrong at first printing and a separate page should have been with it in glovebox updating to the correct quantity. Check that level as soon as you get a chance!! Your dealer should know better.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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It is 8 quarts not 6, cwdilg is right.

As for the time interval, I believe the recommended interval is 12 months with the 0w40 synthetic, but there are factors such as temperature as well.

The car has an oil change indicator, it will come on when you need to change your oil.

You should almost certainly not follow the same service schedule as your Sebring, the Sebring isn't designed to use 0w40, not all engines and oils are created equal.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mouserider
The car has an oil change indicator, it will come on when you need to change your oil.
You are partially correct. The car has the FSS which tells you when service is due. There is nothing that will come on, you have to check it yourself. Check the owners manual for the details.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Well, actually, the FSS will start displaying a message, for 10 seconds after you start your car, on the display which normally shows your mileage when you are approximately within 2,500 miles or 30 days of requiring service. This is not clearly indicated in the Crossfire manual.

All MB cars built after 1998 have this system. Crossfire is an MB car.

What is clearly indicated in the manual is that you can manually request that number by pushing the trip meter reset stem twice quickly as indicated in the manual.

You can also manually reset the number through that stem as indicated in the manual.

The FSS in the Crossfire also spots an electronic oil level indicator, manual will show you how to use it.

As the name implies, it is flexible and as I've said before, makes a decision based on a whole bunch of parameters, so it may very well exceed 7,500 miles or 12 months before it tells you to go get your oil changed.

For those interested, here are the parameters:

- Time (based on cluster clock)
- Speed (based on ABS/ESP control system via CAN)
- Coolant temp (sensor)
- Engine RPM (from CAN)
- Engine oil temp (sensor)
- Engine oil correction factor
- Engine oil level (sensor)
- Load

The FSS may not be accurate if the CAN is reset or cluster clock is reset.
The manual does mention about this. I believe that any reset can be compensated with through the MB tool, not sure about this part, never had to do it yet.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Default Re: wow...my first oil change = $110.

Originally Posted by andrew
i was shocked.
I had my first the other day and it came to $72.00. My guy was nice though and only charged me for what he paid for the oil. He then told me that I should watch for the oil when it is on sale and buy it. I can then bring it to him to put in. I love that guy!!!

Yeah a little pricey but she's worth it!!!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 07:49 AM
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Default Re: wow...my first oil change = $110.

I change oil annually on all my engines. cars, bikes, lawn mowers. It is a holiday of my machine religion. Held in the first week of June. Easy to monitor. Oil changes clean the engine temple. Up on the Altar. Gary
 

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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by drivergirl1030
Yeah a little pricey but she's worth it!!!
This.

You bought a very unique car that requires unique care. This is a sports car, not a Honda Civic.

On the flip side, research is key. Call around! Find the place that seems to know the most about the Crossfire, not just the cheapest. Once you find a place with a knowledgeable staff and good pricing, go for it!

The previous owner of my Crossfire paid ~$85 for the first oil change. I don't really find that too bad if the place knows Crossfires well. I'll pay more for peace of mind.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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Default Re: wow...my first oil change = $110.

Why chance an oil change to a stranger?

Change it yourself on the cheap in less than an hour. And you'll know it's been done right.
 
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