Ticket in AZ
Well.....here is how my son and daughter in law, got out of their tickets.
They requested a "discovery" to see when the last time the speed gun was calibrated.
If the "discovery" request, is not at the court house with the judge, then you should win. If the police officer does not show up, you will also get off.
And the person who said, just pay it, that's your punshiment...hummm
must not drive a XFire!! It's soooo hard to go the speed limit all the time <g>
They requested a "discovery" to see when the last time the speed gun was calibrated.
If the "discovery" request, is not at the court house with the judge, then you should win. If the police officer does not show up, you will also get off.
And the person who said, just pay it, that's your punshiment...hummm
must not drive a XFire!! It's soooo hard to go the speed limit all the time <g>
The mistakes mean nothing, specially because they are not technical, its up to the judge. In my experince in AZ I never lost a case due to those small write ups.
In AZ over 20 is Criminal Traffic, he was nice to let you drive home, he could have made you walk, keep the car and pay for storage.
If you have a minor in the vehicle he can also charge you with Endagerment of a Minor.
Most AZPOST officers are Doppler Certified, meaning the radar is kept tuned and checked before initiating traffic.
AZ and NV have mutual agreements, they might already know in NV. CDL's is another thing you get a ticket in Alaska, its good in Florida.
You can also ask a citizen anything another citizen would ask to initiate a conversation, i.e. are you a catholic, do you like the weather ??, its used for ice breaking ! Used it for years, my best drug bust were just asking, Do you enjoy cutitng your grass ?? ( them not knowing I meant the lawn)
Or trash the ticket as sugested by another message, get a felony warrant for not appearing (since its criminal traffic) and go to jail
Good luck and have a nice day !
P.S.
Police are told to do things by their political leaders, if you dont want the police doing the things they are doing, then change your politicians. Most cops dont like giving out tickets, chasing ladies of the night etc. but they are told they have too.
If of any help, I just paid a 100.00 ticket, I am a cop, I wanted to speed in my Xfire in my small town by I90, small price for a nice ride. I would pay it again if they got me.
In AZ over 20 is Criminal Traffic, he was nice to let you drive home, he could have made you walk, keep the car and pay for storage.
If you have a minor in the vehicle he can also charge you with Endagerment of a Minor.
Most AZPOST officers are Doppler Certified, meaning the radar is kept tuned and checked before initiating traffic.
AZ and NV have mutual agreements, they might already know in NV. CDL's is another thing you get a ticket in Alaska, its good in Florida.
You can also ask a citizen anything another citizen would ask to initiate a conversation, i.e. are you a catholic, do you like the weather ??, its used for ice breaking ! Used it for years, my best drug bust were just asking, Do you enjoy cutitng your grass ?? ( them not knowing I meant the lawn)
Or trash the ticket as sugested by another message, get a felony warrant for not appearing (since its criminal traffic) and go to jail
Good luck and have a nice day !
P.S.
Police are told to do things by their political leaders, if you dont want the police doing the things they are doing, then change your politicians. Most cops dont like giving out tickets, chasing ladies of the night etc. but they are told they have too.
If of any help, I just paid a 100.00 ticket, I am a cop, I wanted to speed in my Xfire in my small town by I90, small price for a nice ride. I would pay it again if they got me.
Originally Posted by Panzer1
P.S.
Police are told to do things by their political leaders, if you dont want the police doing the things they are doing, then change your politicians. Most cops dont like giving out tickets, chasing ladies of the night etc. but they are told they have too.
Police are told to do things by their political leaders, if you dont want the police doing the things they are doing, then change your politicians. Most cops dont like giving out tickets, chasing ladies of the night etc. but they are told they have too.
Originally Posted by Panzer1
Police are told to do things by their political leaders, if you dont want the police doing the things they are doing, then change your politicians.
Okay, I can appreciate your points Panzer, however I don't feel a police-person asking someone about their religion is innocent conversation.
What about the three things you don't discuss in polite society: Religion, Sex, and Politics.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as someone in authority begins asking your views on any of these three they have gone way way way the f*** to far!
It *may* have been innocently making conversation. But, in the relation between authority and civilian, these topics are not innocent, ever. These are things that by their very nature bias people toward each other. Thus, they can no longer be an unbiased, figure of just authority. What if he had said "Mormons? F*** the F***ing Mormons, and Donny Osmond! Islam is the one true faith." ??? That's perfectly fine adult civilian to adult civilian, in private conversation, they don't like it, free speech, they shouldn't have asked. But, to a road-side cop? He'd be in Guantanamo before his engine cooled, if he was lucky.
Flatly put, "Do you enjoy cutting the grass" and "Are you a LDS" are no where near the same kind of question. A cop can ask me about my lawn all day long, but ask me about my soul, my loyality, or my love and they have crossed a line that will be less than politely rebuked.
Lets face it, Religion is the greatest cause of human death and suffering, aside from birth. This is not a light, polite, innocent, harmless topic. The 'wrong' answer has a history of making you worse than dead.
(I tried replying to this topic last week, but canceled it after I worked myself into such a lather about it, I felt best noone read it. This one is much cleaner, thanks for the post to focus be down a bit, Panzer :wink: .)
And, my advice, regardless of the ticket, would be to report the inapporpriate line of questioning to his superiors. Myself, I'd contact the ACLU, the editor of the local paper, their mayor, and chief of police. But, most people are not as willing to go that extra mile.
What about the three things you don't discuss in polite society: Religion, Sex, and Politics.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as someone in authority begins asking your views on any of these three they have gone way way way the f*** to far!
It *may* have been innocently making conversation. But, in the relation between authority and civilian, these topics are not innocent, ever. These are things that by their very nature bias people toward each other. Thus, they can no longer be an unbiased, figure of just authority. What if he had said "Mormons? F*** the F***ing Mormons, and Donny Osmond! Islam is the one true faith." ??? That's perfectly fine adult civilian to adult civilian, in private conversation, they don't like it, free speech, they shouldn't have asked. But, to a road-side cop? He'd be in Guantanamo before his engine cooled, if he was lucky.
Flatly put, "Do you enjoy cutting the grass" and "Are you a LDS" are no where near the same kind of question. A cop can ask me about my lawn all day long, but ask me about my soul, my loyality, or my love and they have crossed a line that will be less than politely rebuked.
Lets face it, Religion is the greatest cause of human death and suffering, aside from birth. This is not a light, polite, innocent, harmless topic. The 'wrong' answer has a history of making you worse than dead.
(I tried replying to this topic last week, but canceled it after I worked myself into such a lather about it, I felt best noone read it. This one is much cleaner, thanks for the post to focus be down a bit, Panzer :wink: .)
And, my advice, regardless of the ticket, would be to report the inapporpriate line of questioning to his superiors. Myself, I'd contact the ACLU, the editor of the local paper, their mayor, and chief of police. But, most people are not as willing to go that extra mile.
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