Deadwood...85 octane ?
Deadwood...85 octane ?
Sorry, this has nothing to do with XFs....other than I'm too chicken to take a car with no spare tire on a long trip. Took the old Chevy HHR (manual calls for premium just like the XF) on a 2,200 mile journey from KC - Sioux Falls-Badlands-Deadwood-Rushmore-Crazy Horse-Colorado Springs-Garden of the Gods......
In those high altitude places they sold 85 octane CHEAP.......so I bought.....to my shock the HHR ran GREAT.....& got incredible MPG........any idea how this is possible? When the air is thin & oxygen low....are these newer cars able to sense & adjust somehow.....never dreamed the HHR could get 32 mpg going up and down mountains????? Even when we could do 80 mph on highways, never pinged once.
It normally gets like 25 mpg driven locally with 91 octane fuel.
In those high altitude places they sold 85 octane CHEAP.......so I bought.....to my shock the HHR ran GREAT.....& got incredible MPG........any idea how this is possible? When the air is thin & oxygen low....are these newer cars able to sense & adjust somehow.....never dreamed the HHR could get 32 mpg going up and down mountains????? Even when we could do 80 mph on highways, never pinged once.
It normally gets like 25 mpg driven locally with 91 octane fuel.
Last edited by Chris L.; 09-09-2012 at 06:48 AM.
Re: Deadwood....85 octane ?
Your post reminds me of my engines class professor telling me about different altitudes and how a car on one octane can run.just as well on another octane , I guess maybe at 85 you hit the degree quicker and because of the less oxygen you don't get the pings... Never understood his explanation because I'm more hands on type of person but what I did understand is if you go back home you must continue to use what you normally use at your elevation
Re: Deadwood...85 octane ?
I was curious about this so I did a bit of googling since nothing is going on at work. Came across this, hope this explains a bit.
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I live in Arizona and use 87-octane regular. In Utah, Idaho and Nevada, stations were selling 85-octane as regular gas. This forced me to pay more for midgrade 87-octane. Is this the latest petroleum-industry scam to get more of our money? Will my car run okay on this bogus 85-octane regular?
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Octane is the ability of a fuel to resist knock, and high-compression engines tend to knock more. The obverse of that is that lower-compression engines can run on lower-octane gas. Air is thinner the higher above sea level you go. Less air going into the cylinders means less pressure at top dead center when things go bang. It's a lot like lowering the compression ratio in the engine, reducing the need for high octane. Cars will run just fine on lower-octane fuel when they're well above sea level--and all of those states are. Hopefully, by the time you get back down to denser air, you've burned off most of the low-octane stuff, and can refill the tank with higher-grade fuel.
Read more: 30 Car Mysteries Solved: Low Octane Fuel at High Altitudes - Popular Mechanics "
Q:
I live in Arizona and use 87-octane regular. In Utah, Idaho and Nevada, stations were selling 85-octane as regular gas. This forced me to pay more for midgrade 87-octane. Is this the latest petroleum-industry scam to get more of our money? Will my car run okay on this bogus 85-octane regular?
A:
Octane is the ability of a fuel to resist knock, and high-compression engines tend to knock more. The obverse of that is that lower-compression engines can run on lower-octane gas. Air is thinner the higher above sea level you go. Less air going into the cylinders means less pressure at top dead center when things go bang. It's a lot like lowering the compression ratio in the engine, reducing the need for high octane. Cars will run just fine on lower-octane fuel when they're well above sea level--and all of those states are. Hopefully, by the time you get back down to denser air, you've burned off most of the low-octane stuff, and can refill the tank with higher-grade fuel.
Read more: 30 Car Mysteries Solved: Low Octane Fuel at High Altitudes - Popular Mechanics "
Re: Deadwood...85 octane ?
any idea how this is possible?
That said, I drive my '82 Volvo with manual choke / Stromberg carburettor quite often to events that have me driving at higher altitudes. With no computer on board, the lack of power is very noticeable as the carburetor starves for air....nothing you can do other then re-tune the carb, only to get back to your "normal" altitude and discover you need to re-adjust again.
Re: Deadwood...85 octane ?
I just couldn't resist trying the 85 in the HHR......as of Sat. 9/8/12......it was running only $3.53 / gallon in SD, WY & Colorado......Premium here in Kansas City > $4....these are 90-91-92 & sometimes 93 octane grades......which is what I normally use in all the vehicles. Premium in those states was running 30-50 cents higher per gallon than the 85.
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