Terrible Day!
Well this afternoon I went to a tire specialist to have my flat repaired, on arrival I was told they would take it off and repair it, 30 mins later they cme out with the tire showing a gash in the sidewall. Sir we dont have your tire size and it will take 3-4 days to get a tire in. So im 30 miles form home with a flat. I ask them to put the tire back on as puncture was slow, well the thing was hissing like a snake so we called around to about 5 shops and not a signle tire anywhere. So I tell them to stick some more air in it and i'll make it to the dealer. get to the dealer and guess what, we dont stock tires that size (wtf!!) we can order one in and it will be here in a day or two, oh and its $425..holy crap.. So I ask them about me getting home and they said that Chryslers warranty covers a loner free. So reluctantly I agree although I know I can get two tires for that price elsewhere. Then the plot thickens....
Sir, your the second owner of the crossfire and although the warranty has transferred as a second owner your not eligible for the free loner and that will cost you ..A very pissed me tells them to stick some air in the tire and I'll get home, thanks for being a great dealer!! So five gas stations of air later I limp into home with a very worn sidewalled tire.
Went online
Two CONTI's on there way from Tirerack for less than the price of the michelin they were trying to sell me...
Chrysler and their dealers dont have there sht together thats for sure to service this car. Im gonna buy a donut from somwhere to stick in the back, im not going through this stress again, also going to contact chrysler as its just a joke and lastly i'll keep the 'good' michelin from the back as a spare. one sucky day!
Sir, your the second owner of the crossfire and although the warranty has transferred as a second owner your not eligible for the free loner and that will cost you ..A very pissed me tells them to stick some air in the tire and I'll get home, thanks for being a great dealer!! So five gas stations of air later I limp into home with a very worn sidewalled tire.
Went online
Two CONTI's on there way from Tirerack for less than the price of the michelin they were trying to sell me...
Chrysler and their dealers dont have there sht together thats for sure to service this car. Im gonna buy a donut from somwhere to stick in the back, im not going through this stress again, also going to contact chrysler as its just a joke and lastly i'll keep the 'good' michelin from the back as a spare. one sucky day!
Are you saying that you are going to combine two michelins with the two Contis after all that crap.
Not sure that is a good idea but I would look for some expert opinion.
Not sure that is a good idea but I would look for some expert opinion.
Dude,
That sucks, I've read about the dealer price of the tires on other posts. I'm not surprised about the "you're the second owner" stuff, I don't think any Mfg's transfer new owner services either... doesn't make it right, just doesn't surprise me.
I am concerned about the "no spare" for exactly what happened to you. Sorry that must have been very frustrating.
In your situation I wonder if anyone makes a tube that would fit our tires? I'd even be willing to pack one 18" and one 19" tube.
That sucks, I've read about the dealer price of the tires on other posts. I'm not surprised about the "you're the second owner" stuff, I don't think any Mfg's transfer new owner services either... doesn't make it right, just doesn't surprise me.
I am concerned about the "no spare" for exactly what happened to you. Sorry that must have been very frustrating.
In your situation I wonder if anyone makes a tube that would fit our tires? I'd even be willing to pack one 18" and one 19" tube.
Guys: I think a tube would give you trouble because of the tire inflation sensor in the wheel. Not sure what it would do if you remove it, (maybe just a light staying on the dash or maybe nothing) and will the valve stem will fit thru the sensor hole? (remember that the normal hole on a wheel is a fair size to fit the tapered valve stem). Also, is the rim smooth enough for a tube, because they don't run a tube, they may not have the rim deburred enough. However, I think the donut idea has some merit! Let us know!
Yeah, im tired as hell this morning dealing with that stress!! defiantely getting a donut shouldnt be took diffiicult to find. I think having to Michelins on the front and two contis on the back is fine from everything i have ready, they are both rated the same and as long as both axles have the same tires all should be well. I want the michelin as a spare but want to ultimtely switch to conti's just not willing to replace two perfrectly good front tires right now. The other thing of note here is that i could have used the provided 'goo' in the back...I didnt have the nerve to try it and delay in me getting home could have caused me not getting home at all....what size of hole or gash is that thing good for?
If I were you, I would go back to the dealer and ***** up a storm. The loaner is good for subsequent owners. I bought mine used and looked it up. Look at this website...
http://www.chrysler.com/popups/premi...icle_care_link
Print that page up and shove it in their face. Demand to see a manager, and ***** at him/her in the middle of the store where others can here you. Let them see that you will let everyone know how they screwed you and left you stranded, despite Chryslers own policy. If they try to say they want to make it right, say you want free oil changes and service visits for a couple years.
http://www.chrysler.com/popups/premi...icle_care_link
Print that page up and shove it in their face. Demand to see a manager, and ***** at him/her in the middle of the store where others can here you. Let them see that you will let everyone know how they screwed you and left you stranded, despite Chryslers own policy. If they try to say they want to make it right, say you want free oil changes and service visits for a couple years.
When you guys are talkin' donut, are you referring to a steel rim with small tire that you can drive safely up to 50 MPH and for like 50 miles? Sometimes refered to as a space saver tire? Would you put it in the back? I'd make sure I had that rear cover installed so no one would see it! 
I do understand about the tire pressure monitor but man if someone could make an inner tube that would fit and work in these tires, I'd buy two! I'm sure a tube could be made, so that in an emergency you could drive the car a few hundred miles, or several days. Hopefullly enough time for the replacement tire(s) to arrive. I don't think its a problem for an inner tube to safely function, heck tractor trailers use tubes and I'm sure they see more stress and weight than what a Crossfire would need or use. I do understand the concerns about the rim, I don't think it would be a problem given todays mfg processes and the fact that you have to slide the tire over the sides to install it. I know real "wire" wheels have this problem (all it takes is a rubber band to remedy it) but I don't think "alloy" wheels would.
If its a choice between a donut and the fix-a-flat, I'll take the fix-a-flat and call AAA when and if I have a problem.
Hmmm thinking back to my youth, I think if you packed three or four tire "spoons" (whatever they are called!) you could install the tube yourself and pump up the tire with the air pump!
I do understand about the tire pressure monitor but man if someone could make an inner tube that would fit and work in these tires, I'd buy two! I'm sure a tube could be made, so that in an emergency you could drive the car a few hundred miles, or several days. Hopefullly enough time for the replacement tire(s) to arrive. I don't think its a problem for an inner tube to safely function, heck tractor trailers use tubes and I'm sure they see more stress and weight than what a Crossfire would need or use. I do understand the concerns about the rim, I don't think it would be a problem given todays mfg processes and the fact that you have to slide the tire over the sides to install it. I know real "wire" wheels have this problem (all it takes is a rubber band to remedy it) but I don't think "alloy" wheels would.
If its a choice between a donut and the fix-a-flat, I'll take the fix-a-flat and call AAA when and if I have a problem.
Hmmm thinking back to my youth, I think if you packed three or four tire "spoons" (whatever they are called!) you could install the tube yourself and pump up the tire with the air pump!
Last edited by CyberGreg; Feb 2, 2005 at 09:17 AM.
Britt1, did you try using the tirefit system in your trunk? You don't have a spare, but the tirefit system will inflate your tire and seal most small punctures. Its essentially Fix-a-flat, for wheels with TPM. Manual says fixaflat will damage the monitor, so they give you your own air pump and tirefit system.
Havent used it yet, but I would also think you could use the pump to just add air to your tires, so you don't need to stop at a gas station, just pull over and plug it into your cig. lighter
Havent used it yet, but I would also think you could use the pump to just add air to your tires, so you don't need to stop at a gas station, just pull over and plug it into your cig. lighter
I'm curious if anyone has used the tirefit system too. From my experience with a couple of 12-volt air pumps, they are slower than molasses...
My guess is it is faster to stop at a gas station and use the mechanical pump which takes like what, 45 to 90 seconds?
Yeah, I thought of using it and crapped myself basically, here was my thought, im 20 miles from home, tired and pissed off, i beleive (in my heart) that I can make it home and if i stopped to mess with the 'goop' and the air compressor and either one failed id be screwed. So i took the chance.
i used the tirefit while driving my crossfire home for the first time. the hole was relatively large so the sealant leaked out and would not seal the puncture. i was able to get a roadside assistance co. to come out and plug the tire. chrysler roadside assistance will only tow you to the closest dealership - they won't repair a tire. not very helpful when you're 600 miles from home.
my recommendation to anyone driving a crossfire is to buy a vulcanized rubber tire plug kit (costs $5-10 at any automotive store) and keep it in your car along with needlenose pliers (to remove nails, etc.) then use the compressor to fully inflate the tire. the little compressor works quite well.
the tirefit system may successfully plug a small hole, but it can also affect your tire valve and pressure sensor. a couple weeks after using the tirefit i conducted an experiment and let air out of the repaired tire. the low pressure indicator came on. i inflated the tire back to its normal pressure and it went off. good i thought - the sealant had no negative effects. but then half a year later the low pressure indicator comes on and stays on. the valve had eventually become clogged from the sealant. i couldn't add air to the tire or take it out and couldn't even get a reading on the tire pressure. fortunately, it is under warranty and was fixed by a dealership.
using tire plugs and the compressor eliminates any need to use the sealant.
my recommendation to anyone driving a crossfire is to buy a vulcanized rubber tire plug kit (costs $5-10 at any automotive store) and keep it in your car along with needlenose pliers (to remove nails, etc.) then use the compressor to fully inflate the tire. the little compressor works quite well.
the tirefit system may successfully plug a small hole, but it can also affect your tire valve and pressure sensor. a couple weeks after using the tirefit i conducted an experiment and let air out of the repaired tire. the low pressure indicator came on. i inflated the tire back to its normal pressure and it went off. good i thought - the sealant had no negative effects. but then half a year later the low pressure indicator comes on and stays on. the valve had eventually become clogged from the sealant. i couldn't add air to the tire or take it out and couldn't even get a reading on the tire pressure. fortunately, it is under warranty and was fixed by a dealership.
using tire plugs and the compressor eliminates any need to use the sealant.
Last edited by Rob M; Feb 2, 2005 at 11:43 AM.
Originally Posted by CyberGreg
Hey Rob,
That's another good idea.... got any recommendations for this tire plug device?
Thanks
That's another good idea.... got any recommendations for this tire plug device?
Thanks
http://www.alpharubicon.com/bovstuff/tirepluguzi.htm
it provides a good discussion on how to use a tire plug kit. the plug kit pictured is identical to the one i have (and have used successfully on my wife's ford escape). and like the author says, despite the recommendation to have the tire inspected by a technician, the tire plug can be considered permanent. as long as the puncture is not in the sidewall they are safe to use and should outlast the tire - imho.
I'm not sure how well these work on a performance low profile tyre like we have though. I've be wary of a plug at high speeds. If something happend would your insuance pay out if it was caused but this?..
Does anyone know if the 19 inch Alloy and tire will fit in the trunk? i guess if it doesnt then there is no point in carrying a donut, i dont relish the thought of putting it on the passenger seat and if you have a passenger and it wont fit in the trunk then you're still screwed.


