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phil alvirez 07-04-2019 04:00 AM

spoiler opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
when reach 90 km speed it opens and when slowing down it remains open. even if stopped. pressing the switch does not help.
any advice? thanks
an update: please see the last posts. found the problem and fixed it.

ala_xfire 07-04-2019 07:28 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
How do you get it down ?

zip439 07-04-2019 07:37 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
Thanks, George, That was my question.

onehundred80 07-04-2019 07:45 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 

Originally Posted by zip439 (Post 925737)
Thanks, George, That was my question.

If it went up at 90 it had to have been down, so how did it go down? That was George’s question.
When you turned off the ignition?

ala_xfire 07-04-2019 07:57 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
Sorry Steve, forgot about that grommet, promise I'll look today.

phil alvirez 07-04-2019 10:28 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
when i started it was down. it then went up at 90kph but when slowed down it remained up. even when i stopped.

dedwards0323 07-04-2019 12:03 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 

Originally Posted by phil alvirez (Post 925753)
when i started it was down. it then went up at 90kph but when slowed down it remained up. even when i stopped.

Is this the first time the spoiler was opened?

lovecross 07-04-2019 01:47 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
Unofficial weak/tired battery indicator/symptom?

pizzaguy 07-04-2019 02:42 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 

Originally Posted by lovecross (Post 925764)
Unofficial weak/tired battery indicator/symptom?

That would be my first reaction as well.

Probably should take it to a dealer and let them "test the battery", that will cost around $100 for them to tell you the battery is OK.
THEN, in a few days, take it back to them so they can test the battery again, and charge you another $100 to tell you they can't find anything wrong.
THEN, in a few days, spend $125 on a new battery, if it fixes it, fine. If not, you go from there.
But NEVER skip paying a dealer at least TWICE for nothing.


OR, you could just replace the battery and go from there. (If your battery is over 48 months old, it's time for a new one anyway - if you love your SKREEM, seatbelt module and car in general.)

phil alvirez 07-04-2019 07:07 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
any time when the car reaches 90 kph. so even if slow down and even stop, the spoiler remains open.
the only way to close it is by pressing the bottom of the switch and wait until it stops, then turning off the switch.
i was suggested to remove the fuse so at least it is not deployed but then i need to know which fuse it is and where is located.
any1?

James1549 07-04-2019 07:11 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
deleted. didn't see your last post

pizzaguy 07-04-2019 09:07 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
Fuse 20 in the undershood fuse box was the powered spoiler fuse in 2005, I believe.
But that fuse differed from year to year and between Base/Limited. You can try 20, but I'd consult the card on the underside of the fuse box lid, it will tell you which one it is.

But keep in mind that ignoring this little symptom isn't really a good idea. The cause can be many things, and in some cases, the car's operation will eventually suffer due to what is going on.
  • The spoiler acting odd is often a sign of a degrading battery.
    • It can also be a sign of a dying alternator.
  • An issue with the wheel speed sensors can cause this.
    • In such cases, cruise control will not work or will act oddly.
  • A deteriorating ground between chassis and engine block will cause odd troubles.
  • It can be that the BCM is just confused.
    • Try this:
      • Shut engine off.
      • Turn headlights on.
      • Raise hood, disconnect battery.
      • Wait 20 seconds or so.
      • Reconnect battery.
      • Turn headlights off and start engine; go for a drive and see if it behaves.
  • You can also take the car to a dealer; this won't get the issue fixed, but it will cost you a lot of money and in some cases, you will get the car back with additional problems.

phil alvirez 07-05-2019 04:51 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
thank you very much. will try and tell.
thanks again.

phil alvirez 07-05-2019 12:46 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
tried but didnt work. thanks anyway.

pizzaguy 07-05-2019 01:35 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005
 
What did you try? The Reset? The battery ground fix?

Keep in eye on the car, my bet is that other symptoms will arise soon, try to remember that any new issues MAY or MAY NOT be related to the spoiler having a mind of it's own.
Example: If you start to observe odd behavior when trying to start the car....

phil alvirez 07-05-2019 04:14 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
  • Shut engine off.
  • Turn headlights on.
  • Raise hood, disconnect battery.
  • Wait 20 seconds or so.
  • Reconnect battery.
  • Turn headlights off and start engine; go for a drive and see if it behaves.
  • i hope that if i remove the fuse it will remain down...and nothing else goes weird!
  • and if so, then hope putting it back things with get back to where they were!

phil alvirez 07-06-2019 01:26 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
removed spoiler fuse. now spoiler remains down. but the red light at the switch flashes. i dont mind, but some1 can tell that it is o k?

pizzaguy 07-06-2019 01:36 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
I can't remember if it flashes due to a blown fuse - it may be flashing due to the error is it seeing in the first place - or it may be beacuse the fuse is blown.
I can't test it here, cause my car is off the road till the new top is on.

phil alvirez 07-06-2019 04:14 PM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
i guess that it is telling that, as there is no fuse, it sees it as if the fuse is blown.

tighed1 07-07-2019 11:46 AM

Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005
 
Could be a bad traction control relay in the relay control module.
Open the RCM (see video on YouTube), turn the key to the ON position.
2 of the 3 middle relays should remain closed (engaged).
If not, bad relay.
To verify - Manually close the relay, turn the key to the ON position and see if you can lower the wing.


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