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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 04:00 AM
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Default spoiler opens and remains open - it is a 2005

when reach 90 km speed it opens and when slowing down it remains open. even if stopped. pressing the switch does not help.
any advice? thanks
an update: please see the last posts. found the problem and fixed it.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:28 AM
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How do you get it down ?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

Thanks, George, That was my question.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:45 AM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

Originally Posted by zip439
Thanks, George, That was my question.
If it went up at 90 it had to have been down, so how did it go down? That was George’s question.
When you turned off the ignition?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:57 AM
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Sorry Steve, forgot about that grommet, promise I'll look today.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

when i started it was down. it then went up at 90kph but when slowed down it remained up. even when i stopped.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 12:03 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

Originally Posted by phil alvirez
when i started it was down. it then went up at 90kph but when slowed down it remained up. even when i stopped.
Is this the first time the spoiler was opened?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 01:47 PM
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Question Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

Unofficial weak/tired battery indicator/symptom?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

Originally Posted by lovecross
Unofficial weak/tired battery indicator/symptom?
That would be my first reaction as well.

Probably should take it to a dealer and let them "test the battery", that will cost around $100 for them to tell you the battery is OK.
THEN, in a few days, take it back to them so they can test the battery again, and charge you another $100 to tell you they can't find anything wrong.
THEN, in a few days, spend $125 on a new battery, if it fixes it, fine. If not, you go from there.
But NEVER skip paying a dealer at least TWICE for nothing.


OR, you could just replace the battery and go from there. (If your battery is over 48 months old, it's time for a new one anyway - if you love your SKREEM, seatbelt module and car in general.)
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:07 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

any time when the car reaches 90 kph. so even if slow down and even stop, the spoiler remains open.
the only way to close it is by pressing the bottom of the switch and wait until it stops, then turning off the switch.
i was suggested to remove the fuse so at least it is not deployed but then i need to know which fuse it is and where is located.
any1?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

deleted. didn't see your last post
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 09:07 PM
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Fuse 20 in the undershood fuse box was the powered spoiler fuse in 2005, I believe.
But that fuse differed from year to year and between Base/Limited. You can try 20, but I'd consult the card on the underside of the fuse box lid, it will tell you which one it is.

But keep in mind that ignoring this little symptom isn't really a good idea. The cause can be many things, and in some cases, the car's operation will eventually suffer due to what is going on.
  • The spoiler acting odd is often a sign of a degrading battery.
    • It can also be a sign of a dying alternator.
  • An issue with the wheel speed sensors can cause this.
    • In such cases, cruise control will not work or will act oddly.
  • A deteriorating ground between chassis and engine block will cause odd troubles.
  • It can be that the BCM is just confused.
    • Try this:
      • Shut engine off.
      • Turn headlights on.
      • Raise hood, disconnect battery.
      • Wait 20 seconds or so.
      • Reconnect battery.
      • Turn headlights off and start engine; go for a drive and see if it behaves.
  • You can also take the car to a dealer; this won't get the issue fixed, but it will cost you a lot of money and in some cases, you will get the car back with additional problems.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 04:51 AM
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thank you very much. will try and tell.
thanks again.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:46 PM
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tried but didnt work. thanks anyway.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open-it is a 2005

What did you try? The Reset? The battery ground fix?

Keep in eye on the car, my bet is that other symptoms will arise soon, try to remember that any new issues MAY or MAY NOT be related to the spoiler having a mind of it's own.
Example: If you start to observe odd behavior when trying to start the car....
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005

  • Shut engine off.
  • Turn headlights on.
  • Raise hood, disconnect battery.
  • Wait 20 seconds or so.
  • Reconnect battery.
  • Turn headlights off and start engine; go for a drive and see if it behaves.
  • i hope that if i remove the fuse it will remain down...and nothing else goes weird!
  • and if so, then hope putting it back things with get back to where they were!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005

removed spoiler fuse. now spoiler remains down. but the red light at the switch flashes. i dont mind, but some1 can tell that it is o k?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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Default Re: spoilers opens and remains open - it is a 2005

I can't remember if it flashes due to a blown fuse - it may be flashing due to the error is it seeing in the first place - or it may be beacuse the fuse is blown.
I can't test it here, cause my car is off the road till the new top is on.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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i guess that it is telling that, as there is no fuse, it sees it as if the fuse is blown.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Could be a bad traction control relay in the relay control module.
Open the RCM (see video on YouTube), turn the key to the ON position.
2 of the 3 middle relays should remain closed (engaged).
If not, bad relay.
To verify - Manually close the relay, turn the key to the ON position and see if you can lower the wing.
 
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