thank you very much.

 

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-no-start.html

 

great. thanks!
will try and tell.

 

did as told and all is fine. thanks.

 

My car is doing this as well.. I am going to try the methods discussed here. So glad I found this forum

 

also consider this that may be the micro switch. i still have not tried it:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...iler-up-3.html

 

havent tried but will once good weather comes and tell.

 

anytime soon, weather will let me remove the plastic cover under and check the switch as suggested.
learned that there is a hidden screw in the cavity inside where you grab the hatch, that would not let me remove that part if i didnt know.
another of the magic of having access to a forum where most of the time we get a solution without which we would be at loss.

 

removed the cover. moved the switch contacts several times. sprayed alcohol on the contacts. installed the fuse that i removed previously. (i had the spoiler down before).
started the engine. the spoiler remained down. began to move and the spoiler went up at about 30 kph and remained up even if slowed down. if stop the engine remains up.
seems that what i did didnt work. back to square 1.
pressed the switch down until the spoiler went all the way down, and while holding it, stopped the engine and removed the fuse so it remains down on normal operation.
if i knew that it is the switch i would buy another 1, but not knowing that it seems useless to buy another.
i noticed some rust in some areas. i could remove the whole assembly and clean it all over, remove the rust, and seal everything so no more water gets in.
it is the only thing that occurs to me that may be of some help, but is a shot in the darkness.

 

end of the story: success!
today eventually was able to do something on the spoiler. the idea was to remove the whole assembly to study it with a magnifying lens. 20 nuts later, with my son checking everything carefully, he found an arm on 1 of the micro switches bent enough to not touch the contact. carefully he straightened it and we assembled the whole thing. (no idea who did this before i got the car. perhaps as they had this problem were trying to fix it. is the only thing that occurs to me). while doing this we added permatex to all the nuts and the edge of the spoiler where it sits on the hatch.
some of the nuts were covered with rust or a white stuff. seems that there was water leaking in, so this will prevent it to happen again. anyway, we went to the highway to test it and presto! the spoiler went up at about 110 kph ( 65 mph) and down at about 60 kph ( 36 mph).
i hope that, whoever suffers from this problem considers checking the micro switches, in case there is something wrong with them. it worked for me.
there is a thread where this is being discussed at large and they also found 1 of the micro switches the culprit: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tuck-open.html
it will be 1 week from now that i will have this car for 1 year, but for several reasons i was unable to concentrate on this issue. am glad that eventually i did.

 

spoiler: is that good?
you know, since i got my xf 1 year ago, i have been driving it without the spoiler...until now. and i have to tell you my experience, in case some1 has found himself in the same situation.
some times i drive it on the expressway, where i can reach some 115 kph (70 mph) for some time. enough to detect a strange humming that came and went cyclically.. for some time i was suspecting something around the transmission. i was like a whisper. but now. with the spoiler operative, it is gone. so thats it! i guess the turbulence increased and developed a wake that then broke and started over and over. hard to imagine, but then again, with the spoiler operative is gone. and that reminds me of a video: https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/au...demuro/page/3/
where this fellow tells that it is the stupidest feature ever. the thing is, he didnt drive the car long enough to test this. but it is not only not the stupidest feature; it is the smartest. it works. and increases stability. i can feel the car more stable when i go beyond the point where it is deployed. so much for experts!
another feature that our beloved car has, and is unique. how about that? or is there another with something similar?
anyway, we have it, and is a safety device. enjoy it!

 

Let’s hope there are no more leaks as it may be hard to get the panel off again.
They leaked because of a poor seal from the factory and it was not made of a compound that sets.