spoiler paint full of bubbles
any idea how to get rid of bubbles under the paint? it is a 2005 car
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Many rear wings have bubbles from the factory. Given time they will break open. The only fix that I know is sand them out and repaint.
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eventually i ran an iron through them and was able to make them smaller or even dissapear. not perfect but way better than before.
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
(Post 925869)
eventually i ran an iron through them and was able to make them smaller or even dissapear. not perfect but way better than before.
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happy to help. use a plain iron for clothes. place the spoiler half open so the heath does not harm the paint of surroundings. with a pin, puncture tiny holes on the areas with bubbles. heat the iron to medium heath; let it warm up, then run the iron through the bubbles so the air escapes through the hole previously perforated. if there is not enough heat, increase it gradually but go from low to hot slowly or you end up burning the paint. also, dont slide the iron; just press it softly. if you slide it, it will drag the paint and make wave-like wrinkles. and dont put too much pressure. good luck.
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I would immediately suggest using wax paper or plain paper between the iron and paint to eliminate stress, lifting or other distortion. If heat helps it would still be effective but without the issue of dragging or sticking to the iron. WOODY
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have you tried that?
am affraid it will stick to the paint. but if you try it then tell us. |
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now some new bubbles showed up. will iron them up, but am affraid i will have to peel off the whole spoiler and sand it, then apply a coat of fiberglass primer, then paint the whole thing.
will tell, but is not an immediate thing i will do. am under the impression that the factory didnt use a primer for fiberglass. or perhaps the surface was not clean? this shouldnt happen. wonder how many are facing this? |
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The wing is metal, not fiberglass. The bubbles are created when the primer or color coat is put on too fast or too thick and does not have a chance to dry properly before the clear is applied; High humidity is major contributor to the cause.
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i see. thank you for telling.
. so i will use primer for metal instead.and will let dry long enough. |
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When I added turn signal leds into my srt wing, I can assure it is not metal, it's fiberglas with metal inserts! I removed and painted it without much issue.
ONE of my albums, enjoy Woody https://www.crossfireforum.org/g/album/4825141 |
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pictures showing it are evidence.fiberglass it is!
i will spray primer for fiberglass, as was my idea, before the paint. |
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The N/A wings are metal and the SRT wings are fiberglass.
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thanks!
so my coupe is fiberglass! |
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This thread reminds me of a Don Ho song.
’Tiny bubbles in the wing. Make me feel unhappy so I won’t sing. |
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Originally Posted by phil alvirez
(Post 926522)
thanks!
so my coupe is fiberglass! Your engine is not super charged; You do not have an SRT6, Thus you have a metal wing!!!!! |
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Steve, there are a couple of SRT6's with a retrofited pop-up wing ......
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this is getting interesting!
anyhow, as soon will remove it for painting, will know what it is in my case. i worked for many years at factories where sometimes things were changed and there were no notices. so, perhaps we find ourselves in a situation similar. as i said, soon will know and tell. and as the primer that i will use is recommended for metal and fiberglass, i hope it will do. we'll see. thanks anyway you all for this advice. |
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Phil, you better check and be certain that primer is compatible with the color coat. If you use OEM type color coat it will be lacquier based and lacquer will bubble most non automotive primers.
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tell me more. i was under the impression that using a primer that is for metal and fiberglass allows automotive paint to adhere to it.
the paint is acrylic laquer by duplicolor. and if it is laquer then what else you suggest? i still can return it. not opened. and about the primer? it is also from duplicolor. |
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
(Post 926567)
Steve, there are a couple of SRT6's with a retrofitted pop-up wing ......
NOW, I'm going to stir the pot some because all you guys that have said the SRT wing is fiberglass I believe are WRONG. The SRT wing has a foam center that gives the wing it's shape. That shape is covered with some kind of gel coat, but that coating does NOT saturate any fiberglass. There is no "fiberglass" in the wing. The gel coat may be an epoxy resin which most of us are familiar with when using fiberglass, but there is no fiberglass in the SRT wing. |
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Originally Posted by zip439
(Post 926577)
I know that George, but I really, really doubt old Phil has one of those. If he did, he probably wouldn't have many questions as to what the wing is made of.
NOW, I'm going to stir the pot some because all you guys that have said the SRT wing is fiberglass I believe are WRONG. The SRT wing has a foam center that gives the wing it's shape. That shape is covered with some kind of gel coat, but that coating does NOT saturate any fiberglass. There is no "fiberglass" in the wing. The gel coat may be an epoxy resin which most of us are familiar with when using fiberglass, but there is no fiberglass in the SRT wing. |
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On the N/A Coupe, the wing/spoiler top is not metal (magnet won't stick), bottom is metal. I believe on the N/A Roadster, the wing/spoiler is all metal.
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mine is coupe limited, in case is of use.
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ok guys, suppose it is fiber: what primer?
or it is metal: same: what primer? thanks |
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Primer depends on the condition. Are you removing all the paint to the fiberglas IT IS FIBERGLAS AS i HAVE SHOWN, or are you scuff sanding to get a TOOTH on the original paint? I hope your not going to use a rattle can to paint the spoiler, I used auto URETHANE two part paint which reguires a clean spray booth like condition. In that case you need to select the primer to be compatible with the top coat.
Iam also assuming your doing a clear coat which requires getting all the paint products from the same supplier, they can be an assistant to your task. I painted the spoiler on mine to match the windshield color to tie it in, Black is not my favorite color so I decided to change it up. Enjoy the hot weekend, Woody |
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thank you very much for the detailed advice. i still dont know what i will find until i unbolt the spoiler.
what i noticed is that it was painted over a previous color that seems the original. perhaps their mistake was that they did not prepare the surface or lightly sanded it to make it slightly rough so the new coat could stick. so maybe even i dont need to remove the paint. will tell. thanks again. |
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You could also have it wrapped in any color or shade it you want as a less costly option, a shop would cost 3-500 to really paint it properly. Woody
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am under the impression that this is what they did.
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just found a thread on the issue here:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...t-problem.html also, a mention at another place-not related-of a term that fits what chrysler is doing to us with the prices on the cross: 'extortionally expensive". what about that? |
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began working on the spoiler.
perhaps others are not, hence the confusion, but this seems fiberglass. couldnt swear for it, but just to be covered, the materials am getting are fiberglass compatible. and am going to remove all the paint. will report results. thanks again. |
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applied paint stripper, but had a hard time removing the paint. learned that there were several layers of blue metallic paint. it wrinkled, as is supposed to do, and kept adding more and scrapping with a spatula. on some areas eventually exposed some sort of white material that looks like plastic (not metal for sure) but am unable to determine if is fiberglass. could be, or could be any of the zillions of plastics around. will need to fill-in some areas that are uneven. perhaps some epoxy and then sand even. got some materials to finish the job. will talk about them in detail at another post.
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If it’s the speed deployed spoiler, it would be a LOT cheaper just to buy another one off of EBay. In the colour you need
if you’re repairing an SRT fixed wing go to this post https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ed-wing-2.html SRT-6 roadster fixed wing. I’ve just repaired one https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...3d1126661.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...4f991d904.jpeg |
Re: spoiler paint full of bubbles
Originally Posted by zip439
(Post 926577)
I know that George, but I really, really doubt old Phil has one of those. If he did, he probably wouldn't have many questions as to what the wing is made of.
NOW, I'm going to stir the pot some because all you guys that have said the SRT wing is fiberglass I believe are WRONG. The SRT wing has a foam center that gives the wing it's shape. That shape is covered with some kind of gel coat, but that coating does NOT saturate any fiberglass. There is no "fiberglass" in the wing. The gel coat may be an epoxy resin which most of us are familiar with when using fiberglass, but there is no fiberglass in the SRT wing. Zip 439 you are 100% correct about the wing composition. Foam core and gel coat i snapped an an image prior to my repair https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...132c4e9c6.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...0c08a4ded.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...6233c1132.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...110ba368c.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...ce6bcbcbe.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...7094e64a4.jpeg |
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Originally Posted by Bill F
(Post 926581)
On the N/A Coupe, the wing/spoiler top is not metal (magnet won't stick), bottom is metal. I believe on the N/A Roadster, the wing/spoiler is all metal.
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My 04 like many is bubbling at the base edge of the wing. Clean white plastic below. All the used wings on ebay share the same issue that i have. I may see if i can just scrape and then paint the Lower flate face. The rest of the wing is presentable. A good winter project 😁
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